[consulting] Drupal Certification

George D. DeMet demet at palantir.net
Tue Aug 11 16:14:09 UTC 2009

Evan is sharing his experience having worked with community-based 
certification programs with other open source projects.  He's taken a 
very strong position on the issue, but it's also one that's backed up 
with evidence, and I don't see it as fear-mongering at all.  Personally, 
I've found his perspective among the most interesting ones in this 
entire thread.

Victor Kane wrote:
> Just stating the need for certification so blatently is a form of 
> fearmongering.
> Stating "in actual experience" as an absolute is a form of fearmongering.
> But STFU is inappropriate either for or against.
> STFU is a form of fearmongering.
> Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org 
> <mailto:evan at telly.org>> wrote:
>     Laura wrote:
>     > I have trouble with this statement. There are reasons some might
>     > believe that "certification" could be bad for the community, as have
>     > been expressed here. So STFU is not the right message here, as
>     it was
>     > not in the previous email a couple of days go, imho.
>     In actual experience there is no evidence to show that any existing
>     certification related to open source projects (LPI, BSDCert, MySQL,
>     Zend, Ubuntu, RHCE, etc.) has caused any damage to their related
>     communities. Indeed, just the opposite has occurred, with both direct
>     and indirect new business ventures and job opportunities arising from
>     their existence. Those parts of the respective communities who like
>     certification get involved, those who don't ignore it and are
>     unaffected.
>     The onus is on opponents to demonstrate -- rather than just
>     theorize --
>     damage to the community, given the large number of existing models
>     available to examine. Without evidence the opposition is just
>     fearmongering, and in my opinion STFU is an appropriate response to
>     fearmongering of any kind.
>     - Evan
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