[consulting] Drupal Certification

Victor Kane victorkane at gmail.com
Tue Aug 11 16:01:32 UTC 2009

Just stating the need for certification so blatently is a form of
fearmongering.Stating "in actual experience" as an absolute is a form of
But STFU is inappropriate either for or against.
STFU is a form of fearmongering.

Victor Kane

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:

> Laura wrote:
> > I have trouble with this statement. There are reasons some might
> > believe that "certification" could be bad for the community, as have
> > been expressed here. So STFU is not the right message here, as it was
> > not in the previous email a couple of days go, imho.
> In actual experience there is no evidence to show that any existing
> certification related to open source projects (LPI, BSDCert, MySQL,
> Zend, Ubuntu, RHCE, etc.) has caused any damage to their related
> communities. Indeed, just the opposite has occurred, with both direct
> and indirect new business ventures and job opportunities arising from
> their existence. Those parts of the respective communities who like
> certification get involved, those who don't ignore it and are unaffected.
> The onus is on opponents to demonstrate -- rather than just theorize --
> damage to the community, given the large number of existing models
> available to examine. Without evidence the opposition is just
> fearmongering, and in my opinion STFU is an appropriate response to
> fearmongering of any kind.
> - Evan
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