[consulting] Drupal Certification

[Dries Buytaert]

I have to agree with what George said.  For me, Evan's comments were  
amongst the most insightful in this discussion.


On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:14, George D. DeMet wrote:

> Evan is sharing his experience having worked with community-based  
> certification programs with other open source projects.  He's taken  
> a very strong position on the issue, but it's also one that's backed  
> up with evidence, and I don't see it as fear-mongering at all.   
> Personally, I've found his perspective among the most interesting  
> ones in this entire thread.
>
> Victor Kane wrote:
>> Just stating the need for certification so blatently is a form of  
>> fearmongering.
>> Stating "in actual experience" as an absolute is a form of  
>> fearmongering.
>> But STFU is inappropriate either for or against.
>> STFU is a form of fearmongering.
>>
>> Victor Kane
>> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org <mailto:evan at telly.org 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>>    Laura wrote:
>>    > I have trouble with this statement. There are reasons some might
>>    > believe that "certification" could be bad for the community,  
>> as have
>>    > been expressed here. So STFU is not the right message here, as
>>    it was
>>    > not in the previous email a couple of days go, imho.
>>
>>    In actual experience there is no evidence to show that any  
>> existing
>>    certification related to open source projects (LPI, BSDCert,  
>> MySQL,
>>    Zend, Ubuntu, RHCE, etc.) has caused any damage to their related
>>    communities. Indeed, just the opposite has occurred, with both  
>> direct
>>    and indirect new business ventures and job opportunities arising  
>> from
>>    their existence. Those parts of the respective communities who  
>> like
>>    certification get involved, those who don't ignore it and are
>>    unaffected.
>>
>>    The onus is on opponents to demonstrate -- rather than just
>>    theorize --
>>    damage to the community, given the large number of existing models
>>    available to examine. Without evidence the opposition is just
>>    fearmongering, and in my opinion STFU is an appropriate response  
>> to
>>    fearmongering of any kind.
>>
>>    - Evan
>>
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