[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...

Thu Feb 26 00:06:38 UTC 2009

I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs, or
enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that doesn't mean
I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to these "services".
He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his "pitch" to me, but I
don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying to sell me a service I
don't need and didn't ask for. His response was, to put it mildly, batshit
crazy, proving my warning was warranted.

I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would want
to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out of the
blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it at that.

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Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech, LLC
http://zivtech.com
alex at zivtech.com
office: (267) 940-7737
cell: (215) 866-8956
skype: zivtech
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com> wrote:

> I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
> entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.
>
> My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with his pissy
> email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying others.  I don't see
> how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal session was rude or deserved the
> sarcastic email response.
>
> Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if someone
> took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.  John should have
> thought twice before firing off that email .
>
> Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or the
> police called?
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com> wrote:
>
>> I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful forum for
>> sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this sort of conversation to
>> be kept between two parties, rather than shared with the masses. I don't
>> feel I have anything to offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take
>> this offline.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
>> From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com>
>> Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
>> To: consulting at drupal.org
>>
>>
>> "... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"
>>
>> There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out right threates" to
>> physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This is blatant
>> slander
>> and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person goes out of
>> their
>> way to try to ruin someone else's business by making completely false
>> claims?
>>
>> John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your only response
>> was
>> "block my address." It seems like you were the one that went out of your
>> way
>> to harass him.
>>
>>
>> Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why he spoke to
>> alex
>> > in
>> > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly amusing... right down
>> > to
>>
>> > the out right threats of physical violence.
>> >
>> > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen" <karen at florezgroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John co-owns with
>> me.
>> > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex. John called
>> Alex
>> > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told John in a very
>> > rude,
>> > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services and is hosting a
>> > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John could learn a
>> > tip
>> > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with John for 8 years
>> and
>> > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not going to take
>> > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did nothing to
>> insult
>> > or
>> > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
>> >
>> > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to email John, but
>> he
>> > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John called Alex to
>> > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing emails did not
>> > stop
>> > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally after John said
>> he
>> > would call the police immediately that the barrage of emails finally
>> > ceased.
>> >
>> > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to discuss this in
>> > more
>> > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Karen
>> >
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