[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...

Thu Feb 26 00:12:55 UTC 2009

I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they  
are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get  
recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an  
excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once  
in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow  
as an industry.

Cheers,

Adam Mordecai, Partner
Advomatic, LLC

On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:

I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,  
or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that  
doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to  
these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his  
"pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying  
to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response  
was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.

I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would  
want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out  
of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it  
at that.

--
Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
ZivTech, LLC
http://zivtech.com
alex at zivtech.com
office: (267) 940-7737
cell: (215) 866-8956
skype: zivtech
aim: zivtech

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com> wrote:
I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly  
entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.

My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with his  
pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying others.   
I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal session was rude  
or deserved the sarcastic email response.

Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if  
someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.  John  
should have thought twice before firing off that email .

Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or the  
police called?

Sam

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com> wrote:
I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful forum  
for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this sort of  
conversation to be kept between two parties, rather than shared with  
the masses. I don't feel I have anything to offer to this, and I would  
prefer that you both take this offline.

Thanks,

Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com>
Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
To: consulting at drupal.org

"... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"

There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out right threates"  
to
physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This is blatant  
slander
and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person goes out of  
their
way to try to ruin someone else's business by making completely false
claims?

John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your only  
response was
"block my address." It seems like you were the one that went out of  
your way
to harass him.

Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
 >
 > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why he spoke  
to alex
 > in
 > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly amusing...  right  
down
 > to

 > the out right threats of physical violence.
 >
 > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen" <karen at florezgroup.com>  
wrote:
 >
 >
 > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John co-owns  
with me.
 > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex. John  
called Alex
 > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told John in a very
 > rude,
 > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services and is  
hosting a
 > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John could  
learn a
 > tip
 > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with John for 8  
years and
 > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not going to  
take
 > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did nothing to  
insult
 > or
 > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
 >
 > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to email John,  
but he
 > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John called  
Alex to
 > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing emails did  
not
 > stop
 > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally after John  
said he
 > would call the police immediately that the barrage of emails finally
 > ceased.
 >
 > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to discuss this  
in
 > more
 > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Karen
 >
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