[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
George
g at 8vue.com
Thu Feb 26 00:26:54 UTC 2009
Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken.
Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.
Adam Mordecai wrote:
> I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they
> are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get
> recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an
> excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once
> in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow
> as an industry.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam Mordecai, Partner
> Advomatic, LLC
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:
>
> I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,
> or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that
> doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to
> these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his
> "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying
> to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response
> was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.
>
> I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would
> want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out
> of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it
> at that.
>
> --
> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
> ZivTech, LLC
> http://zivtech.com
> alex at zivtech.com <mailto:alex at zivtech.com>
> office: (267) 940-7737
> cell: (215) 866-8956
> skype: zivtech
> aim: zivtech
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com
> <mailto:sam at samcohen.com>> wrote:
>
> I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
> entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.
>
> My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with
> his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying
> others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal
> session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.
>
> Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if
> someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.
> John should have thought twice before firing off that email .
>
> Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or
> the police called?
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com
> <mailto:mark at markery.com>> wrote:
>
> I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful
> forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this
> sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather
> than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to
> offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this offline.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
> From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com
> <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
> Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
> To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
>
>
> "... right down to the out right threats of physical violence"
>
> There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out
> right threates" to
> physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This
> is blatant slander
> and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person
> goes out of their
> way to try to ruin someone else's business by making
> completely false
> claims?
>
> John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your
> only response was
> "block my address." It seems like you were the one that
> went out of your way
> to harass him.
>
>
> Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
> >
> > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why
> he spoke to alex
> > in
> > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly
> amusing... right down
> > to
>
> > the out right threats of physical violence.
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"
> <karen at florezgroup.com <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John
> co-owns with me.
> > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.
> John called Alex
> > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told
> John in a very
> > rude,
> > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services
> and is hosting a
> > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John
> could learn a
> > tip
> > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with
> John for 8 years and
> > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not
> going to take
> > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did
> nothing to insult
> > or
> > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
> >
> > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to
> email John, but he
> > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John
> called Alex to
> > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing
> emails did not
> > stop
> > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally
> after John said he
> > would call the police immediately that the barrage of
> emails finally
> > ceased.
> >
> > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to
> discuss this in
> > more
> > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Karen
> >
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