[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
Sam Cohen
sam at samcohen.com
Thu Feb 26 00:36:58 UTC 2009
What's with all these people filling my inbox with emails telling me to stop
filling their inboxes? This is a legitimate conversation from members of
this community and there are people here who want to listen and participate.
It seems to me that if you don't like the conversation, you should just
delete the message or get the digest mode. Or set up a filter that says if
subject line is "A recruiter to watch out for..." delete.
And let the rest of us talk without having rude people in the background
telling us to shut up.
Sam
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
> Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken.
> Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.
>
> Adam Mordecai wrote:
> > I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they
> > are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get
> > recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an
> > excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once
> > in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow
> > as an industry.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adam Mordecai, Partner
> > Advomatic, LLC
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:
> >
> > I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,
> > or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that
> > doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to
> > these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his
> > "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying
> > to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response
> > was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.
> >
> > I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would
> > want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out
> > of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it
> > at that.
> >
> > --
> > Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
> > ZivTech, LLC
> > http://zivtech.com
> > alex at zivtech.com <mailto:alex at zivtech.com>
> > office: (267) 940-7737
> > cell: (215) 866-8956
> > skype: zivtech
> > aim: zivtech
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com
> > <mailto:sam at samcohen.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
> > entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.
> >
> > My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with
> > his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying
> > others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal
> > session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.
> >
> > Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if
> > someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.
> > John should have thought twice before firing off that email .
> >
> > Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or
> > the police called?
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com
> > <mailto:mark at markery.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful
> > forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this
> > sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather
> > than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to
> > offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this
> offline.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
> > From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com
> > <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
> > Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
> > To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
> >
> >
> > "... right down to the out right threats of physical
> violence"
> >
> > There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out
> > right threates" to
> > physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This
> > is blatant slander
> > and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person
> > goes out of their
> > way to try to ruin someone else's business by making
> > completely false
> > claims?
> >
> > John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your
> > only response was
> > "block my address." It seems like you were the one that
> > went out of your way
> > to harass him.
> >
> >
> > Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why
> > he spoke to alex
> > > in
> > > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly
> > amusing... right down
> > > to
> >
> > > the out right threats of physical violence.
> > >
> > > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"
> > <karen at florezgroup.com <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John
> > co-owns with me.
> > > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.
> > John called Alex
> > > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told
> > John in a very
> > > rude,
> > > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services
> > and is hosting a
> > > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John
> > could learn a
> > > tip
> > > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with
> > John for 8 years and
> > > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not
> > going to take
> > > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did
> > nothing to insult
> > > or
> > > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
> > >
> > > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to
> > email John, but he
> > > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John
> > called Alex to
> > > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing
> > emails did not
> > > stop
> > > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally
> > after John said he
> > > would call the police immediately that the barrage of
> > emails finally
> > > ceased.
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to
> > discuss this in
> > > more
> > > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > --
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