[consulting] At what percentage do you think most new sites will stop supporting IE6?

Ben Steele ben at hyperdimensional.net
Thu Jun 18 16:16:39 UTC 2009


A potential solution could be using IE7-js to overcome some of IE6's short
comings - http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/
Not sure if there is a Drupal module for it...



2009/6/18 Ashraf Amayreh <mistknight at gmail.com>

> > The problem we have with IE6 is a lot more than CSS compatibility. It's
> poor JS performance, PNG incompatibility, etc, etc. makes it hard to work
> with. I
> > know there are patches for everything but it's extra work and since
> January we started to charge more for making sites IE6 compatible.
>
> > Seeing how charts are doing, I'm pretty confident that at the end of the
> year IE6 will stop being considered on about 50% of new projects.
>
> I kind of doubt that. CSS compatibility is the biggest issue and I'm hoping
> the reset.css will be the solution. JS performance is a new one for me, it
> used to be JS incompatibilities but with JQuery that's no longer an issue.
> PNG compatibility is again an issue, but in Drupal, with modules like pngfix
> it is as simple as enabling the module and identifying the img tag's
> wrapper's ID or CLASS.
>
> I definitely despise ie6, but the points above are diminishing and I think
> you've quite overrated them.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Ivan Soto <ivansotof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> HI, (I'm new here)
>>
>> The problem we have with IE6 is a lot more than CSS compatibility. It's
>> poor JS performance, PNG incompatibility, etc, etc. makes it hard to work
>> with. I know there are patches for everything but it's extra work and since
>> January we started to charge more for making sites IE6 compatible.
>>
>> Seeing how charts are doing, I'm pretty confident that at the end of the
>> year IE6 will stop being considered on about 50% of new projects.
>>
>>
>> Ivan Soto Fernandez
>> Web Developer
>> http://ivansotof.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Ashraf Amayreh <mistknight at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Has anyone come across reset.css files? I've only recently been
>>> acquainted with the concept, but surprisingly enough, almost all new sites
>>> we coded where we've used the reset.css have passed ie6 with no to little
>>> modifications. Read this:
>>>
>>> http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
>>>
>>> Hope it helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Darrel O'Pry <darrel.opry at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think it will be a percentage point that changes the support
>>>> requirement. I think it will be a price point. I'd go about testing it by
>>>> adding additional cost for each browser the project support with higher
>>>> costs for deprecated or non-compliant browsers and see what the market will
>>>> bear.
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2009 10:32 AM, "Brian Vuyk" <brian at brianvuyk.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I was just looking at statistics regarding browser usage.
>>>>
>>>> W3Schools shows IE6 usage at 14.5% last month:
>>>> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
>>>> W3Counter shows IE6 at 24.84% last month:
>>>> http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>>>>
>>>> Regardless of what the true usage is, all these statistics indicate that
>>>> it's usage is dropping, although not particularly fast.
>>>>
>>>> At what percentage point do you think people will start to consider IE6
>>>> to be not worth supporting anymore? I know a lot of developers feel that we
>>>> are past that point already due to how obsolete IE6 is. However, most
>>>> clients I've dealt with insist that Safari be supported with ~5% of the
>>>> market share, and IE6 even more so.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> --
>>>> *Brian Vuyk*
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>>>> Skype: brianvuyk
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