[consulting] Who exactly is this list for?

[George]

you're on fire tonight sun! (no pun intended)

it's very clear that i wasn't alone in wondering what exactly this list 
is about / for, and it seems no one really knows either. if the creator 
wants to use a list for consultants to talk about anything related to 
drupal consultants, then fine, but this wouldn't be the business list 
that i hoped it would be. lately, the time management thread was really 
useful advice, however 'can drupal do x' threads are not and clog up my 
inbox.

hopefully something good and clear will come out of this.

/me sighs.

Daniel F. Kudwien wrote:
>>>> It is different than the developers list, because it is
>>>> focused on how to use the current tool to meet a client need,
>>>> rather than how to change the tool.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Sechrest          .
>>>>         
>>> No, that is the purpose of the support mailing list.
>>>
>>>       
>> Excuse me... As the person who actually pulled this list 
>> together, please
>> don't tell me what the purpose of the list that I pulled together is.
>>
>> -- 
>> John Sechrest          .
>>     
>
> The above statement, "how to use ..." refers 100% to the support list.
> Everyone will point you to the support list, #drupal-support, or
> http://drupal.org/support if your question starts like that.  Even you did
> it yourself - see below.  There is no difference whether you are asking a
> support question for yourself or to meet a requirement of someone else.
>
> So, the purpose of the Support mailing list is absolutely clear.  The
> purpose of this list is obviously not.
>
> To back this up:
>
> http://drupal.org/mailing-lists says:
>
> "Consulting - A mailing list for Drupal consultants and Drupal
> service/hosting providers."
>
>
> http://drupal.org/irc says:
>
> "#drupal-consultants for Drupal Consultants. You can find paid help here, as
> well as advice on best practices and general discussions surrounding the
> business side of Drupal. Ask questions here only if you're willing to pay
> for the advice." [huh?]
>
>
> irc://irc.freenode.net/drupal-consultants says:
>
> "Channel to hire Drupal freelancers and discuss professional Drupal work.
> The Drupal consultants mailing list is at
> http://lists.drupal.org/listinfo/consulting. The paid services forum is at
> http://drupal.org/paid-services. See also
> http://groups.drupal.org/consulting for job postings."
>
>
> http://groups.drupal.org/consulting says:
>
> "Consulting and Business - A group for consultants and businesses that work
> with Drupal. You are encourage to also join the consulting mailing list on
> Drupal.org.
> For consultants: project manager, consultant, or developer -- you use Drupal
> to solve business requirements.
> For businesses: you've built your business using the Drupal framework, be it
> hosting, a social networking website, a newspaper, or a fantastic new Web
> 2.0 app."
>
>
> Even more digging around made me find a post from years ago:
>
> http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/consulting/2006-March/000595.html says:
>
> "
> What is in: On this list it is great to talk about:
>
> * Current projects, architecture
> * RFP's -> Request for proposals
> * Request for subcontract help
> * Contracting issues
> * Consulting Marketing
> * Consulting support documents
> * Sharing/suggestions on best practices to approach a particular problem
> * Announcements/requests for RFP collaboration -> Details go offlist
>
>
> What is off: On this list is it is a problem to talk about: (Do not do it)
>
> * Pricing on list ( Illegal -> price fixing)
> * How do I code X -> Use the development list
> * How do I use drupal (as a user) -> Use the support list
> * organizing conferences -> Use the conference list
> * Details of a particular RFP collaboration -> Keep details off list, post
> summary at end.
> "
>
> It is unfortunate that this definition (or an improved version of it) did
> not make it to a more prominent place than the list archives.
>
> This is where my contributions to this thread will end.  I better get my
> hands dirty with code.
>
> sun
>
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