[consulting] consulting Digest, Vol 38, Issue 70
Arnold Leung
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Fri Mar 27 01:01:38 UTC 2009
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> 1. Re: Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted (Matt Chapman)
> 2. Re: Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted (Matt Chapman)
> 3. Re: Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted (Michael Prasuhn)
> 4. Re: Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted (Victor Kane)
> 5. Re: Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted (Darrel O'Pry)
> 6. Re: enormously scalable project (Laura Scott)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:07:17 -0700
> From: Matt Chapman <Matt at NinjitsuWeb.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
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> Victor Kane wrote:
> > Of course we have a right to publish our minimum wage!
> Agreed. Another fallacy in this discussion is the assumption that
> possessing a law degree makes counsel automatically correct. Lawyers are
> less interested in True or False and more interested in Win or Lose. If
> they can Win a client by advising against a battle they are personally
> likely to Lose, they will advise accordingly, without suggesting that
> the battle might be Won by someone else under the right circumstances.
> Of course, as "War Games" taught us, sometimes the only way to Win is to
> not play the game.
>
> > Of course we have a right to declare rates beneath which no-one should
> > be accepting work.
> Who is 'we' here? I don't think the community has any right to force an
> individual to refuse the opportunity to earn. Each individual has the
> right to determine for themselves what standard of living is acceptable
> to them, and therefore the wages they must earn to support that standard
> of living. In a free society, if I don't have the skills to earn that
> wage, I can learn them; if I'm in the wrong place to exercise my skills,
> I can go to the right place. (In a just society, those who can go and
> can learn will provide an average standard of living for those those who
> can't.)
>
> In the internet age, the 'going' is almost entirely irrelevant. What an
> amazing era we live in, where anyone with an internet connection and
> sufficient self-motivation can become an independent Drupal developer
> and earn $1000/per week with moderate effort! In the better part of the
> world, Drupal can, at the present, provide the opportunity to live like
> a king.
>
> To hope that this present state will sustain itself endlessly is
> obviously foolish. It is the nature of Life itself to compete, change,
> grow, and progress. One who insists on maintaining the status quo should
> not be surprised that 'death' is the result. Artificial systems to
> enforce the status quo are artificial life support: living death. No
> thanks.
>
> I charge a fairly high rate compared to some; I don't begrudge anyone
> the opportunity to work for less, if the amount they receive allows them
> to provide a quality service and support their chosen lifestyle. If they
> aren't providing quality, their client's will decide my services are
> worth the higher price; if they aren't supporting their lifestyle, they
> will raise their rates closer to mine. If they are successful to the
> point that my clients are leaving me, I will be forced to improve the
> quality of my services, or find new services to offer that can command
> the rate I need for my chosen lifestyle. The free market system, while
> far from perfect and not prone to ensure justice of it's own accord, is
> self-correcting.
>
> Fortunately, in the world of IT, there is always some hot new technology
> which can be offered for obscene prices until the rest of the workers
> catch on, then I can alter my lifestyle, or find the next technology.
> wash, rinse, and repeat. If you don't like having to learn new skills
> every couple years, I suggest abandoning the information age society for
> subsistence farming; it's still a viable option. The era of assurances
> of predictably increasing earnings over one's career is gone; everyone
> under thirty should know this and should plan accordingly. The only way
> to continually increase earnings is to continually increase knowledge.
> Artificial controls on earnings, especially in technology, will only
> hinder innovation and progress. Our present economic situation in the
> USA is precisely because too many people expected things to continue as
> they always have, and too few people planned for change.
>
> (Perhaps as a counterpart to Agile Programming Techniques, we need
> evangelists for Agile Living Techniques. Assume what you know and what
> you need today is not an effective predictor of what you will need and
> learn tomorrow.)
>
> This is perhaps ultimately what distinguishes a Consultant from a
> Worker. My primary value is not so much what I can do; it's is what I am
> capable of learning to do. Client's need me when they need someone who
> can do what has never been done before. I thrive under such challenges,
> which is why I am drawn to consulting. Maybe a world is emerging where
> we must all become consultants, or else learn to grow our crops and
> build our own homes. I don't consider it a tragedy if the middle road
> disappears entirely, but I understand why other's might.
>
> As long as we are providing a service that the "bosses" need, we have
> the power; centralizing that power will only inhibit the liberty of the
> individual. Tyranny from the association of workers is no better than
> the tyranny from the association of bosses.
>
> When information capital is the prime commodity and information is as
> free as it is now on the internet, those with money capital (i.e., your
> "bosses") are no longer advantaged. Long live OLPC, Wikipedia, oDesk,
> and CreativeCommons.
>
> I'm thankful to live in a society where I can chose to be my own boss
> anytime I want. The solution in the worker/boss struggle is not for the
> workers to gang up against the bosses; it is for the workers to BECOME
> the bosses. Drupal has made this possible for me, and for that, I'm
> truly thankful.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Matt
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:29:26 -0700
> From: Matt Chapman <Matt at NinjitsuWeb.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
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> Robert Foley wrote:
> > Rates go up and down, salaries go up and down what really matters is
> > are you doing what you love (and or does your job allow you fund that
> > which you love)? If not, then keep searching for another career or job
> > or idea that will.
> What he said. Sorry for the redundancy in my excruciatingly long babblings.
>
> If brevity is the soul of wit, then those who call my musings soul-less
> may be right. I am, however, eager to hear the response of those who
> think it wit-less. In reviewing the tone of my comments, I noticed again
> that I tend to state as fact things which I'm merely pondering, so I
> don't want to dissuade anyone who might be able to enhance my education
> with their own thoughts on the subject, even if presented less
> dogmatically.
>
> Best,
>
> Matt
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:57:30 -0700
> From: Michael Prasuhn <mike at mikeyp.net>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted
> To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
> <consulting at drupal.org>
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> On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Victor Kane wrote:
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> > Otherwise we'll all be washing dishes in Soho, because it's a better
> > paid job than developing websites.
>
>
> You have piqued my interest. Can you elaborate?
>
> This 'Soho' place, is it nice? What kind of dishes?
>
> -Mike
>
> __________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:56:52 -0300
> From: Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted
> To: "A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting
> providers" <consulting at drupal.org>
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> First class dishes!
> My keyboard weary fingertips soak in the hottub of sinkwater
> A simple life
> Movement and the zen of no thought
> Money in the bank
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Michael Prasuhn <mike at mikeyp.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Victor Kane wrote:
> >
> > Otherwise we'll all be washing dishes in Soho, because it's a better
> paid
> >> job than developing websites.
> >>
> >
> >
> > You have piqued my interest. Can you elaborate?
> >
> > This 'Soho' place, is it nice? What kind of dishes?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > __________________
> > Michael Prasuhn
> > 503.488.5433 office
> > mike at mikeyp.net
> > http://mikeyp.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:42:25 -0400
> From: "Darrel O'Pry" <darrel.opry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] Estimation-Blowout case-studies wanted
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> The sledgehammer and crowbar of gordon matta clarke made it beautiful. The
> greed and wealth of the soulless made it a dim echo of what it was.
>
> On Mar 26, 2009 4:58 PM, "Michael Prasuhn" <mike at mikeyp.net> wrote:
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> On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Victor Kane wrote: > Otherwise we'll all be
> washing dishes in Soho, be...
> You have piqued my interest. Can you elaborate?
>
> This 'Soho' place, is it nice? What kind of dishes?
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> -Mike
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> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:33:16 -0600
> From: Laura Scott <pinglaura at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [consulting] enormously scalable project
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> On Sat Mar 21, 2009, at 8:21 am, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>
> >
> > However, there are four firms I'm aware of with specific focus on
> > scalability:
> >
> > http://www.tag1consulting.com/ - "LAMP Performance and Scalability
> > Experts" tap into experience running drupal.org and several other
> > large scale sites to help their customers. Also have some good
> > resources (patches, articles) on their site.
> >
> > http://fourkitchens.com/ - Pressflow is their distribution of Drupal
> > which has extra patches to make it perform/scale better in a MySQL
> > only environment. They also provide advice on hardware/software for
> > scalability.
> >
> > http://www.workhabit.com/products/elastic2 - Provide services around
> > scalable Drupal in Amazon's cloud, and historically have offered
> > consulting on making Drupal scalable elsewhere as well.
> >
> > Acquia - nothing generally available yet, but Dries mentioned in the
> > 2009 roadmap that they will offer a product code-named "Fields" to
> > help people scale Drupal on Amazon's web service infrastructure -
> > http://buytaert.net/acquia-2009-roadmap They are probably offering a
> > closed beta of this now - contact a sales rep if interested in trying
> > it out.
> >
> > And 2bits.com
> >
> >
> http://2bits.com/articles/drupal-performance-tuning-and-optimization-for-large-web-sites.html
> >
> >
> http://2bits.com/services/drupal-performance-assessment-tuning-and-optimization.html
>
> And pingVision (though we haven't been blogging about it, really -
> http://pingv.com/services/drupal-deployment-scaling-performance-tuning)
>
> Laura
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