[consulting] A chuckle

Victor Kane victorkane at gmail.com
Fri Aug 6 21:43:31 UTC 2010


I'm watching Top Chef! Cool!

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Don <donald at fane.com> wrote:

>  Oh come on, the use of the internet is exploding but programmers aren't.
> I've learned if a person wants to pay $300, chuckle and move on. They have
> no idea what it takes to develop a site and are difficult to work with.
> I've heard gloom and doom for 20 years. First it was 4GL, then it was CASE,
> now it's one more supposed cure all.
> Keep your skills up to date, learn how to market and understand value add,
> and how to sell yourself. And if you're too serious on Friday evening it's
> time to locate a good elbow bend.
>
> -Don-
>
>
> On 8/6/2010 5:26 PM, Victor Kane wrote:
>
> Well, sorry to ruin your TGIF old chum, but the subject (and the original
> ad sparking it) isn't funny at all for tens of thousands of professionals
> all over the world.
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Kevin Reynen <kreynen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Victor Kane Up until that comment, I was enjoying my Friday.  Are you
>> this much fun at parties too?
>>
>> I think what everyone was enjoying was the fact that in the US unless
>> someone could complete the project in an hour or 2, only someone who
>> developed Drupal sites as a hobby would bid on a $300 project.  I have
>> seen a number of job postings like this.  They might as well have
>> read...
>>
>> Looking for Drupal developer with mental condition.  You must be smart
>> enough to do X, Y, and Z, but too stupid to know the market rate for
>> that type of work.
>>
>> When I see companies post those on Craig's List, I'm tempted to pay
>> the $25 to repost an updated ad for them.
>>
>> - Kevin Reynen
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > We can all laugh our heads off, but the law of falling rate of return
>> (Marx)
>> > and the huge efforts being made (even in the Drupal community via the
>> > sanctification of oDesk) to commoditize Drupal consulting work will make
>> us
>> > consultants laugh on the other side of our faces.
>> > Only an international union (which we should have done at the cusp of
>> the
>> > curve, not now that it is dropping) can defend our rights as working
>> people.
>> > Victor Kane
>> > http://awebfactory.com.ar
>> > "Let's make the capitalist corporations pay for the crisis, not working
>> > people"
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Riche Zamor Jr <rczamor at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What country is the bid from? It doesn't read as though English is the
>> >> writer's first language...
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 6, 2010 4:32 PM, "Andrew R. Kelly" <arkelly at cognisync.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > That HAS to be a typo, nobody's that clueless.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org
>> >> > [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org]
>> >> > On Behalf Of Jeff Greenberg
>> >> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:58 PM
>> >> > To: consulting at drupal.org
>> >> > Subject: [consulting] A chuckle
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Received this request for a bid today. Still chuckling.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > You have been invited by the employer to participate in a private
>> >> > auction.
>> >> > We would like to have an informational portal for all of the roles in
>> >> > our
>> >> > company. The site will be made with the Drupal CMS and therefore we
>> >> > require
>> >> > an EXPERT drupal developer. Please don't bid if youre only building
>> >> > drupal
>> >> > websites as your hobby. You should be well familiar with content
>> types
>> >> > and
>> >> > views, users integration in Drupal, advanced search and permission
>> >> > functions, multilingual sites (including rtl languages)...We can say
>> >> > that we
>> >> > are very strict with timelines and very clear with requirements so
>> >> > please
>> >> > give us the right estimation from the beginning...
>> >> >
>> >> > Max Bid:$300
>> >> >
>> >>
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