[consulting] A chuckle

[Don]

Oh come on, the use of the internet is exploding but programmers aren't.
I've learned if a person wants to pay $300, chuckle and move on. They 
have no idea what it takes to develop a site and are difficult to work with.
I've heard gloom and doom for 20 years. First it was 4GL, then it was 
CASE, now it's one more supposed cure all.
Keep your skills up to date, learn how to market and understand value 
add, and how to sell yourself. And if you're too serious on Friday 
evening it's time to locate a good elbow bend.

-Don-

On 8/6/2010 5:26 PM, Victor Kane wrote:
> Well, sorry to ruin your TGIF old chum, but the subject (and the 
> original ad sparking it) isn't funny at all for tens of thousands of 
> professionals all over the world.
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Kevin Reynen <kreynen at gmail.com 
> <mailto:kreynen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     @Victor Kane Up until that comment, I was enjoying my Friday.  Are you
>     this much fun at parties too?
>
>     I think what everyone was enjoying was the fact that in the US unless
>     someone could complete the project in an hour or 2, only someone who
>     developed Drupal sites as a hobby would bid on a $300 project.  I have
>     seen a number of job postings like this.  They might as well have
>     read...
>
>     Looking for Drupal developer with mental condition.  You must be smart
>     enough to do X, Y, and Z, but too stupid to know the market rate for
>     that type of work.
>
>     When I see companies post those on Craig's List, I'm tempted to pay
>     the $25 to repost an updated ad for them.
>
>     - Kevin Reynen
>
>     On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com
>     <mailto:victorkane at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > We can all laugh our heads off, but the law of falling rate of
>     return (Marx)
>     > and the huge efforts being made (even in the Drupal community
>     via the
>     > sanctification of oDesk) to commoditize Drupal consulting work
>     will make us
>     > consultants laugh on the other side of our faces.
>     > Only an international union (which we should have done at the
>     cusp of the
>     > curve, not now that it is dropping) can defend our rights as
>     working people.
>     > Victor Kane
>     > http://awebfactory.com.ar
>     > "Let's make the capitalist corporations pay for the crisis, not
>     working
>     > people"
>     >
>     > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Riche Zamor Jr
>     <rczamor at gmail.com <mailto:rczamor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> What country is the bid from? It doesn't read as though English
>     is the
>     >> writer's first language...
>     >>
>     >> On Aug 6, 2010 4:32 PM, "Andrew R. Kelly"
>     <arkelly at cognisync.com <mailto:arkelly at cognisync.com>> wrote:
>     >> > That HAS to be a typo, nobody's that clueless.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org
>     <mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org>
>     >> > [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org
>     <mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org>]
>     >> > On Behalf Of Jeff Greenberg
>     >> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:58 PM
>     >> > To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
>     >> > Subject: [consulting] A chuckle
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > Received this request for a bid today. Still chuckling.
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >> > You have been invited by the employer to participate in a private
>     >> > auction.
>     >> > We would like to have an informational portal for all of the
>     roles in
>     >> > our
>     >> > company. The site will be made with the Drupal CMS and
>     therefore we
>     >> > require
>     >> > an EXPERT drupal developer. Please don't bid if youre only
>     building
>     >> > drupal
>     >> > websites as your hobby. You should be well familiar with
>     content types
>     >> > and
>     >> > views, users integration in Drupal, advanced search and
>     permission
>     >> > functions, multilingual sites (including rtl languages)...We
>     can say
>     >> > that we
>     >> > are very strict with timelines and very clear with
>     requirements so
>     >> > please
>     >> > give us the right estimation from the beginning...
>     >> >
>     >> > Max Bid:$300
>     >> >
>     >>
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