[consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour

Sami Khan sami at etopian.net
Sun Aug 22 20:36:27 UTC 2010


On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:18:43 -0300, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com>
wrote:
> The only thing I have to add to Alex' excellent intervention is, if you
are
> on this list and mystified because, hey, why are people here discussing
all
> of this stuff, the answer is that we are living in a very weird moment,
in
> which a bunch of stuff that does not commonly happen is happening, and
many
> of us are frankly very concerned.

Very important point, thank you!

> 
> Concerned about wars, massacres, unemployment, record number of
> foreclosures
> in the US ... and on this list, extremely concerned about something
called
> the "Drupal bubble"... I am very concerned about my future as a
freelance
> contractor, but not because I can't find work... This year I have twice
the
> number of billable hours than last year.
> 
> This year is the best year I have ever had as a freelance contractor.
> 
> That's what I am worried about... I want to know why it is happening...
and
> I am concerned that the roots of this "bonanza" are such that no way can
it
> last in the same way... the Drupal bubble is a direct reflection of
large
> companies moving to open source as a form of oursourcing, with thousands
of
> engineers in all major companies (also many going through "merge" and
> "destruction" processes) being let go.
> 
> And what is bad for some people working for a living is bad for all
working
> people, because what goes around comes around.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
> <alex at zivtech.com>wrote:
> 
>> You're right, it is amazing. So, which socialist institution shall we
>> dismantle first? Social Security ('let them eat dog food')? Medicare
and
>> Medicaid  (stupid poor people shouldn't get sick- idiots)? Our Armed
>> Forces
>> & the VA (The market shall protect those who can afford protection, and
>> HMOs
>> can take care of our wounded vets, like they take care of the 40
million
>> +
>> Americans w/out healthcare)?
>>
>> Thank god we haven't let our amazingly efficient and cost-effective
>> health
>> care system become taken over by the socialist fascist!Next thing you
>> know
>> people will be free to choose a job of their liking (or create their
>> own),
>> rather than having to maintain your job simply to maintain healthcare.
>> And
>> then just imagine the crazy stuff they'll come up with!  Every day, for
>> the
>> year or so that I went without healthcare (no insurer would insure me
bc
>> of
>> asthma and a history of back problems), I was comforted by the fact
that
>> those darned socialist bastards couldn't get their hands on our US
>> Healthcare system. Sure, I couldn't get my meds, and a simple accident
>> would
>> have led me directly into bankruptcy court, but... Ayn Rand! Milton
>> Friedman! The Divine Hand of the Free Market! Halleluyah, praise to the
>> one
>> and only (ME!).
>>
>> Nothing gets you motivated to make money like going bankrupt because
your
>> kid got sick! That'll teach that silly child to pull him/herself up
from
>> his
>> shoelaces (assuming he/she can afford it) and get working!
>>
>> Forget about the 'common good', I'm gonna get mine and the rest of you
>> stupid 'mericans can go eat a... cake! You can call it selfish, you can
>> call
>> it heartless, you can even go so far as to say I lack any sense of
>> patriotism or human compassion, but I call it "rugged individualism"
and
>> I
>> love me/it!
>>
>> To put it simply: ME! ME! ME!
>> MMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> --
>> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
>> Partner | Business Lead
>> Zivtech, LLC
>> http://zivtech.com
>> alex at zivtech.com
>> office: (267) 940-7737
>> cell: (215) 866-8956
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Heinz D. Wegener <
>> heinz at simplexcreative.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's amazing to me how much this "consulting" forum is used to debate
>>> socialism vs. capitalism. Socialism is completely counter-intuitive to
>>> being
>>> a consultant. Being a consultant implies that you are interested in
>>> finding
>>> jobs that will make you money so that you can support your family. You
>>> are
>>> participating in capitalism. This hatred of corporations is
foolishness.
>>> Success is not evil. Profit is not evil.
>>>
>>> My father and his family did not emigrate from Germany to America to
>>> experience despair and normalcy. They came with hope, and they had
>>> nothing.
>>> They were hard working people with a desire to succeed in one of the
>>> best
>>> countries in the world. My father was 6-years-old when they came to
this
>>> country. He worked his ass off with the goal of becoming successful
and
>>> was
>>> motivated to do so partially because kids would call him a Nazi in
>>> school
>>> just for being from Germany. And guess what? He succeeded. And guess
>>> what
>>> else? He is the most generous, giving man I know, and has an amazing
>>> heart
>>> for people. There's your evil capitalist.
>>>
>>> My father-in-law experienced the same type of success after his family
>>> fled from Cuba. Both he and my father both become owners of successful
>>> companies. With socialism comes the death of that hope that most
>>> immigrants
>>> had back in the 40's and 50's and still have today. Study your
history,
>>> and
>>> learn the truth yourself. Entrepreneurs were, and continue to be, some
>>> of
>>> the primary contributors to America's success.
>>>
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