[consulting] Suggestion for Dries and Moderators: New Politics List

[Bill Fitzgerald]

  +1 for more active list moderators

-1 to creating a Drupal-politics list; really, I'd almost rather see a 
Drupal-idigpopmusic list. There are plenty of other places to talk 
politics, or pop music, for that matter.

I'd be glad to be one of the moderators of the list; I've been on this 
list since its inception, and actually do read most of what comes 
through here.

Cheers,

Bill

On 8/22/10 3:24 PM, Adam Mordecai wrote:
> While the back and forth on wether or not Socialism or Communism or 
> Capitalism or Pastafarianism is the most evil thing ever is quite 
> engaging, I'd like to remind everyone why this list was created in the 
> first place by Dries:
>
> http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/consulting/2005-December/000000.html
>
> a new mailing list has been created: consulting at drupal.org 
> <http://drupal.org>, a mailing
> list for Drupal consultants, Drupal service providers, Drupal hosting
> providers, etc.  As most of you know, there is large demand for
> Drupal consultants; pretty much every Drupal consultant is maxed
> out. *This list aims to connect Drupal consultants, to share ideas *
> *and experience amongst Drupal consultants, to obtain feedback from *
> *Drupal consultants, and hopefully, to grow the number of Drupal *
> *consultants. * (This is not a support mailing list.  It is a
> "consultant to consultant" mailing list.)
>
> So essentially this is a place to talk shop, refer clients to each 
> other, share sites and discuss best practices,* not to debate the 
> nuances of various political philosophies. *Every other week, a few 
> noisy players clog the list with noise, not changing ANYONES minds. 
> Both sides go home with the same view, and the rest of us who are here 
> to talk shop end up getting annoyed and consider more and more leaving 
> the list.  It has no relevance to what this list is supposed to be 
> about and is not appropriate. *This is not persecuting free speech, 
> this is called staying on topic. *If you went in the Drupal Dev IRC 
> room and never stopped talking about how awesome the latest Britney 
> Spears album is, chx would kick you out, not because he hates your 
> ideas (though he probably does), but because its not appropriate to 
> talk about Britney's awesome new album there. The appropriate place 
> for that is #drupal-crappypopmusic.
> *
> *
> For example, appropriate discussion would be:
>
>    1. Where can I find healthcare as a US freelancer?
>    2. Does anyone know a good insurance broker for liability and
>       healthcare?
>    3. How would you handle a client who has done A B or C?
>    4. What are some best practices for how to decide my rates?
>    5. Which countries would be best for a consultant to move to to
>       gain the most benefits while at the same time be able to make
>       the most money?
>
>
> For example, inappropriate discussion would be:
>
>    1. Everything that has been ranted about over and over for the last
>       3 months about socialism vs capitalism. We get it. You know the
>       true way. Yay you.
>
>
> *I would like to ask Dries to appoint some moderators, and also 
> perhaps create a second list, the list could be called Drupal 
> Politics*. On that list, you could talk about how Capitalism is evil, 
> how socialism kills babies, or anything else regarding social policy 
> that has no immediate effect on individual consultants tangible 
> takeaways. (Yes the policies of various countries do have an effect on 
> all of us, but this is not the list to organize around legislative 
> policies.) We are here to learn from each other about how to improve 
> our business practices and improve Drupal, not organize a revolution 
> and topple regimes.
>
> I will gladly volunteer to moderate this list and move all political 
> discussions to the politics list.
>
> In the first thread, I will talk about how capitalism is awesome, but 
> sucks without unions. And how I want universal healthcare.
>
> And then we can start making this list grow again, with actual 
> intelligent discussion about how to make our businesses and Drupal better.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam Mordecai, Partner
> Advomatic, LLC
> http://advomatic.com <http://advomatic.com/>
> Drupal Development, Managed Hosting & Maintenance
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> shops and how to fix them. 
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>
>
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