[consulting] From Highly Formatted Print to Web -- Best Solution?

Daniel at SnakeHill.net Daniel at SnakeHill.net
Fri Apr 8 15:19:36 UTC 2011


Here's a few ideas from Cheryl, our designer.

1. There are online services that take the PDF (which can be created from
the Quark doc). Most appear to be paid but there is one called YUDU that
has a free option but they also have a paid option ($180 a year) with more
features.

2. We can create an online page-turning PDF from InDesign. We would have
to convert the Quark file and have the newest version of InDesign (CS5).
Even the newest version of Quark does not have this ability.

So with either option there would be a link on the Bulletin page going to
the PDF. This is the simplest, most cost effective way to do this. 

Dan



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   1. From Highly Formatted Print to Web -- Best Solution?
      (Shai Gluskin)
   2. Re: From Highly Formatted Print to Web -- Best             Solution?
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   3. Re: From Highly Formatted Print to Web -- Best             Solution? 
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 13:06:38 -0400
From: Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com>
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                 Solution?
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Hi Folks,

I've got a client who is going to be serially publishing a book to its web
site, one page/day. Each day will be its own node.

The print version is *highly *formatted. A real pain. The text is either 
in
pdf or Word, but the fussing I've done so far when pasting into TinyMce
doesn't produce good results.

Here is my idea that I want feedback on: They should take a screen shot of
the whole page (the pages are small, like 5in. x 7in.) for each day and
upload the image. In order to get search-engine traffic for those pages, I
thought they should just copy and paste the text from the pdf into a text
field, losing all the formatting. Using css, I'll make sure the text field
displays off-screen. This way they get the cleanest/easiest data entry and
best-looking presentation while still allowing search engines to drive
traffic to the page based on the text contents of a field that will be
offscreen.

Does that make sense?

Any other ideas?

Shai
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:14:19 +0300
From: Fred Jones <fredthejonester at gmail.com>
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> Does that make sense?

Google, at least, indexes PDFs.

Aside from that, it sounds reasonable to me.


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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:01:29 -0400
From: Ted <ted-drupalists at webfirst.com>
Subject: Re: [consulting] From Highly Formatted Print to Web -- Best
                 Solution?
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On 4/7/2011 1:06 PM, Shai Gluskin wrote:
> Here is my idea that I want feedback on: They should take a screen 
> shot of the whole page (the pages are small, like 5in. x 7in.) for 
> each day and upload the image. In order to get search-engine traffic 
> for those pages, I thought they should just copy and paste the text 
> from the pdf into a text field, losing all the formatting. Using css, 
> I'll make sure the text field displays off-screen. This way they get 
> the cleanest/easiest data entry and best-looking presentation while 
> still allowing search engines to drive traffic to the page based on 
> the text contents of a field that will be offscreen.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Any other ideas?
>

We've used a pdf-based toolchain to emulate the google docs pdf 
quickview function, including "highlighting" and copying text.

http://pdftoxml.sourceforge.net/ - Gives you the coordinates and 
dimensions of each piece of text
pdftoppm - Exports each page to a PNG image (with appropriate arguments)
convert - ImageMagick tools to convert PNGs to indexed format, make 
thumbnails, etc.

You'll most likely want to use some XSLT to cut down the size of the XML 
file from pdftoxml. These tools can be used to automate your idea above 
(with or without support for highlighting/copying the book text).

Ted



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