[consulting] Drupal themer needed for short gig

[Andrew R. Kelly]

Thanks for all the great candidates for this little gig.  I could have done
without the 50 extra emails in my inbox with the same subject line that are
full of diatribes (did someone go off on some homophobe angle?  Did I
actually read that?).  Your need to express yourselves added an extra step
in my effort to extract money from the big companies and trickle it down our
stack.

One discouraged professional (Emma) is exasperated with this list and I
don't blame her, sometimes I think I'm being punked when I read some of
these threads.  I'll say to her that we've found some quality talent and
great consultative advice from people lurking on this list (key word
"lurking"), I'd be willing to bet that describes 75% of the membership.  If
you can see your way through the noise it's a great asset.

Best of luck to all,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org]
On Behalf Of Brandon Dawson
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:40 PM
To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
Subject: Re: [consulting] Drupal themer needed for short gig

One and all:

These subsequent replies to this thread are not material for a public list,
which is especially and doubly-recursively ironic considering you yourselves
are pointing it out. It is also totally unnecessary to call out one-time
mistakes in excess of their real damage or harm, which, again, just
compounds the problem.

Mr. Kelly should bear in mind that some of his points cut both ways. I'd say
most online-only contractors learn fairly quickly NOT to invest vast amounts
of time in proposals that they'll likely never hear back on, often based on
vague, imprecise specifications. His case was somewhat different, since he
was very specific and to-the-point about what he needed.

But he still should understand that marketing services like these in an
international marketplace filled with hucksters and sweatshops is inherently
a numbers game where those who try to "do it right" are already at a
disadvantage, just by doing so. While I sympathize and agree with his
summary with regards to the efficacy of excessively "boilerplate" responses,
and applaud the extent to which it was a slap in the face of those who
brazenly and knowingly "do it wrong", it's also a situation where "it is
what it is."

Mr. Van Kets, IMHO, has already been chastened enough for what I'm quite
sure was a one-time mistake, given that it's the only time I've seen his
name in several months' membership on this list.

Messrs. Barrett, Jones, Heyman, Hyde, and others, would all do well to
reflect on the mistakes they made starting out (we all make them) and could
have reached out to the errant "Reply-All'er" privately, every bit as easily
as clicking "Reply All" themselves and deploying the flamethrowers, in
accordance with their own sarcastic retorts and/or advice.

Enough's enough, folks. Let's let this one drop, or at least keep it
on-point, professional, and free of personal digs or insults, since the
actual subject matter is a good topic for newer consultants/contractors.

-- Brandon Dawson

On 08/20/2011 10:12 AM, Joe Hyde wrote:
> I for one would never hire someone that uses "reply all". It is 
> clearly a sign of 'shoot from the hip' unprofessionalism.
>
> As for calling me an old lady, that's not sexist. It is homophobic. I 
> am not old, nor do I cross dress. Obviously in your world, there's 
> something wrong with both.  Remember, to be a good American, we must 
> always respect the freak show on parade more than the average regular 
> Joes. Now genuflect and prepare for your appearance on Oprah, or be 
> ostracized for the rest of your career!
>
> HA!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Franz Glauber<franz.glauber at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Gordon Heydon<gordon at heydon.com.au>
wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> You guys seem to be turning into a bunch of old woman, so the guy 
>>> hit the reply all instead of reply. I know for myself I hit reply 
>>> all for 99.9% of all my response, and then he gets bashed for a simple
mistake.
>>> We should be encouraging people not putting them down for small
mistakes.
>>> I this is not in the sprit of the community that I have been 
>>> involved in for the last 10 years.
>>> Gordon.
>> Despite your sexist comment, you're right, Gordon.
>>
>> --
>> Franz
>>
>> http://ciudaddelpico.com
>>
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