[development] Administration Survey: Theme improvements, theme help system, theme mailing list

[Trae McCombs]

We might want to move this thread to themes at drupal.org

Trae
PS. in case you missed it, we have a #drupal-themes channel now too.


Tim Altman wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:02:04 +0100, Larry Garfield  
> <larry at garfieldtech.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday 01 December 2005 09:40 am, andre wrote:
>>
>>> On that note - it might be a good idea to include links to pages like:
>>> http://www.hixie.ch/advocacy/xhtml part of the best practices
>>> documentation.
>>
>>
>> I don't know why people insist on passing that page around, since it's
>> spreading FUD.
> 
> 
> It is informative and accurate, and quite useful when used in context: 
> if  developers are considering the use of Drupal with the  
> application/xhtml+xml MIME type.  Most things can be considered FUD 
> when  used out of context.
> 
>> - The scenario right up at the top applies only to dumb developers,  
>> because it
>> does not include validation.  If you're not validating your code 
>> against  your
>> specified doctype, then you're doing it wrong in the first place.
> 
> 
> Validating your own code isn't the only issue:  
> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/01/14/thought_experiment.   
> Drupal.org doesn't validate, FWIW.
> 
>> - <script> and <style> with funky comments to hide from old browsers: 
>> I  don't
>> recall the last time I saw someone actually use the comments, now that
>> Netscape 3 is no longer used.
> 
> 
> 9 out of the top 10 sites on the Web[1] have comments at the beginning 
> of  SCRIPT tags.  There is a caveat about this point, too.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> So it's not XHTML that is considered harmful,
> 
> 
> No, sending XHTML as text/html is.  What benefits does sending XHTML as  
> text/html have over semantic HTML 4.01?
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Read: XHTML doesn't break browsers, web developers break bad 
>> browsers.  :-)
> 
> 
> This sentence doesn't make sense.  Neither XHTML nor Web developers can  
> break browsers unless they trigger a bug.  XHTML sent as  
> application/xhtml+xml breaks the Web:  
> http://annevankesteren.nl/2005/11/draconian.
> 
> What benefit is there to Drupal developers and implementors in using 
> HTML  4.01 vs. sending XHTML as text/html vs. sending XHTML as  
> application/xhtml?  That's the kind of question the handbook should  
> answer.  The suggested page provides such information.
> 
> [1] http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_500
> 


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