[development] that admin theme (from money/ work point of view), call for arms?

Trae McCombs occy at occy.net
Mon Nov 21 14:07:55 UTC 2005

Hey Ber,

It would be cool if there was a way we could work some of this into the 
CivicSpace Theme.  Are you saying you did a complete re-write of things 
from the ground up?  If so, I would like to see what you did.


PS. #cstheme - the civicspace theme channel

Bèr Kessels wrote:

>Hi there, 
>First of all, i don't want to restart this endless debate, I just want to get 
>those that are already behind this idea, going. :)
>I have just managed to set up a theme, for my sister. She is graphical 
>designer so it had to be "nifty" or "appealing". But I refuse to get into 
>flash and that crap. 
>I managed to create a theme from scratch, that uses image galleries, books and 
>a few static pages, in less then four hours. (will launch somwhere December)
>That is, four hours after I did the layout in inkscape and illustrator (just a 
>drawing suite). So, that is four hours to:
>* make the HTML (validate) 
>* test the CSS on various platform. (okay, ie5 (mac) is omitted, for now)
>* make that a theme
>But, off course, the admin part breaks horribly. Absolute positioning, 
>hardcoded CSS dimensions and more of such 'niftyness' + Drupal admin don't go 
>together, never.
>So why this mail? Not to tell you how quick I can theme ;) But because I have 
>now proved, *to myself*, that I really need that admin theme. It shortens the 
>themeing, or design of a site with over 750%. That is an afternoon vs a week!
>So, as of today, I really beleive that a lot of developers, themers and users 
>can get their site online in *at least* half the time they would usually 
>need, had they not have to bother abotu that admin part.
>And yes, I beleive it reduces usability, but if it obviously saves so much, I 
>think it is worth that loss!
>Here is my plan:
> * get the amin part out of civicspace (Robert Douglas, did you not already do 
> * upgrade sections to ship as teh engine to achieve this admin-theme-magic.
>Anyone who wats to jump on this boat, please grab me on IRC, or by mail (ber 
>curlything webschuur com). It should be a matter of hours to get this done. 
>From then on we can look if more plp are interested, maybe even get all this 
>shipped with core in a distant future.
> Bèr
>Oh and for the record: the HTML is non-table, the *complete* stylesheet (i 
>trew out drupal.css, off course) is just under 120 lines!

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