[development] New Themes for New Drupal

Trae McCombs traemccombs at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 13:42:08 UTC 2006

I know I'll get flamed for this, and I really don't want to hurt
anyones feelings, but these themes aren't particularly good visually.
If Ted had his hand in them, I know they are solid from a standards
point of view, which is always good.

Looks are like anything, everyone has different opinions.  IMHO, these
themes aren't very sexy.

Also, drops-small has a bug in it where, just below the header, things
are shifted over to the right 1 px. ;) {FF/Linux}

I wish I could afford to spend time working on a theme, sadly,
financially I don't have that ability, or otherwise I would produce

Nice good efforts there guys.  Not sure this should be included in core though.

my .01


PS. Whatever happened to Vancouver?  It was fairly decent looking...

On 8/29/06, Jeff Robbins <lists at jjeff.com> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2006, at 6:25 AM, Neil Drumm wrote:
> > Jeff Robbins wrote:
> >> As some of you probably know, I've been working on a new theme for
> >> Drupal that aims to become the default core theme for the next
> >> version of Drupal.
> >
> > I didn't get the memo. I did hear rumors.
> There were only rumors... no memos.
> >>     We've set up a test site here: http://drupaltheme.lullabot.com
> >
> > These themes need to be somewhere between "looks like Drupal" and
> > "clean enough to build off of." What I see here looks like a full
> > palate competing with the Drupal branding and the themer trying to
> > find the shortest way to their own color scheme. It does look good,
> > but too far from bluemarine to be a good default.
> Please see: http://drupaltheme.lullabot.com/node?theme=zen-beach
> That's the most "Drupaly" theme and the one that I would probably
> vote for as default.
> Whereas http://drupaltheme.lullabot.com/node?theme=zen might make a
> better admin theme, if users have both right and left sidebars
> activated.
> Also, I assume that the bluemarine theme will stay in core for at
> least a release or two. So those that love it can still use it if
> they'd like.
> >> There is currently 1 theme with 4 sub-themes. The main theme is
> >> called "Zen" and aims to provide basic, standards-compliant, XHTML
> >> that can be easily manipulated with CSS (think: "CSS Zen
> >> Garden"). ...
> >
> > Things you will have a hard time getting past me:
> > - Implementing any more theme functions than we have in the core
> > themes at the moment. (see http://drupal.org/node/
> > 81217#comment-129980)
> Well we can work on that. On the one hand, it might be good to have a
> theme function or two in the template.php to server as an "example"
> for themers. On the other, if they seem like sane redefinitions,
> perhaps they should be part of core. However, they should probably be
> handled as a separate patch, IMO.
> > - Styling form fields. These are notoriously inconsistent across
> > platforms and I think are best left as-is anyway since form fields
> > should always look like form fields.
> I'm not sure I totally agree on this point. Some browsers ignore
> styling on form fields, so it is important to test on many browsers
> to see what is truly happening. But I think that a little bit of
> styling, particularly on form buttons can show a sense of style and
> maturity. Certainly they can be styled out of the realm of usability,
> but I think with a bit of testing, we can improve upon the nasty
> default button styling of browsers like Firefox.
> -jeff

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