[development] the past, present and future of drupal admin

[Kieran Lal]

On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:

> Op woensdag 26 juli 2006 18:01, schreef Kieran Lal:
>> before we
>> dive into small UI improvements.
>
> From what I have seen in the past, and now again this is very  
> unfair to say.

You are right.  I shouldn't have said before.  I meant we should do  
this in parallel.  Things improve because of many diverse approaches  
and efforts. I agree Kristjan's recommendations, but want to see also  
see the effort I outlined as well.

Cheers,
Kieran

> Kristjan has hardly ever proposed "small UI improvements". And no,  
> he has not
> got the resources like CS to put people on it to turn this into  
> patches.
>
> Personally I value Kristjan's input a lot higher then some
> statistically-backed up survey, because Kristjan spends a lot of  
> effort and
> time to back his statments up with research, literature,  
> screenshots and
> mockups. We thank a lot of great usability improvement on his  
> input. On the
> same note, a lot of his input has died a silent death, because no  
> 'coder' (I
> prefer not to devide Drupalleers into coders and none-coders) took  
> up his
> ideas and made them work.
>
> So, to conclude: CS's statistics show where we can improve the overall
> experience (Drupal.org[1]). And Kristjan has made a great post,  
> with mockups
> and explanations how we can improve Your Drupal Site. Both are very  
> important
> parts, both need attention. Because eventrhough a lot of effort  
> went into
> improving Drupals admin, it did not become notably 'better' overall 
> [2]. Some
> parts improved, others de-proved.
>
> Bèr
>
> [1] Besides the "where can I find what" and "how do I use what"  
> improvements,
> we *also* need some better quality assurance. Drupal without  
> contribs is not
> much. But most contribs are "not much" either. Drupal relies on  
> somtimes
> absolutely crappy contribs, or stuff that is not even stable (I am  
> pointing
> at myself too!).
> [2] http://webschuur.com/node/638 check the very well structured  
> menu... ?
>
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