[development] #drupal / #drupal-dev split considered harmful

[Dave Fletcher]

Killes, don't you see that it's this horrible condescending attitude
that is the whole problem? Do you not *want* newbies? Are you
allergic?

New folks are often in a rush to get their first project out the door.
It's understandable. That's why they picked a CMS and didn't sit down
to write an application. So they're in a hurry, glance at IRC
channels, and find one that looks like it will help. *This will
continue to happen no matter what the channel charters are*

So, my vote is, let's work with it instead of fighting it all the
time. Mr. Killesreiter we're having fun while the tumbleweeds blow in
#drupal. Join us! It's your destiny ;-)

--fletch


On 7/31/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard at killesreiter.de> wrote:
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> Khalid Baheyeldin schrieb:
> >> As I understood it was:
> >>
> >> #drupal - development focused
> >> #drupal-support - support focused - for newbies
> >>
> >
> > The problem is that #drupal  is the first place newbies will think
> > of to get support. Once they are there, they are greeted with the
> > "support?" reply telling them to go to #drupal-support.
>
> No, they actually get a message when they join and there is a topic to
> look at.
>
> > This can be offputting and make people feel unwelcome. They
> > ask the first question and get a reply that amounts to : "we don't
> > serve your type here, buzz off!" (plagiarised from Esmerel)
>
> "You didn't read the topic or pay attention to the join message, buzz
> off" is more accurate.
>
> > So, I don't see why charters can change, with development
> > in #drupal-dev (and only development), then #drupal become
> > community focused, has support, infra discussions, and everything
> > else that is not development.
>
> I am not going to agree to this.
>
> Cheers,
>         Gerhard
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