[development] very slow Drupalcon videos?

Christopher Bradford bradfordcp at gmail.com
Fri Sep 28 20:03:56 UTC 2007


>
> However, another consideration might be that some ISPs like Comcast and
> many universities are (rumored to be) blocking torrent packets (under the
> assumption that if it's a torrent, it *must* be illegal).
>
As a comcast user, I notice that they only block your packets while you
seed, so you can still download from peers (and upload while you are
downloading). As far as University networks are concerned there should not
be any issues if using the web-seeding protocol as that uses the HTTP
protocol. For instance, if I were on my university's network trying to
download a torrent that utilizes web-seeding, it would appear to them (my
university) that I am simply downloading a file off of a server.
~Chris

On 9/28/07, Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com> wrote:
>
> This would necessitate some evangelizing and education regarding torrents
> in general (which I am not against). If we go this way, I'd be happy to
> draft up a "torrent tips" handbook page to point to background info links.
> I'd need some help collecting names/links of good clients -- my torrential
> experience is limited to Azureus/Vuze.
> However, another consideration might be that some ISPs like Comcast and
> many universities are (rumored to be) blocking torrent packets (under the
> assumption that if it's a torrent, it *must* be illegal).
>
> Laura
>
> On Sep 28, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Robin Monks wrote:
>
> With webseeding, it would be ideal.
>
> Robin
>
> On 9/28/07, Tomas J. Fulopp <tomi at vacilando.org> wrote:
> >
> >  Sounds like providing the videos (or any larger files) using the
> > bittorrent is the most advantageous approach. Why not using it since Drupal
> > already has a very good module developed for it?
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher Bradford wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >   The bittorrent module has an integrated tracker and supports the
> > web-seeding extension. This means two things:
> > a) The tracker will not have to be run from the command line
> > b) Should no seeds be available the torrent clients would pull data from
> > the server over HTTP (should the client support it)
> >
> > There are two quasi-standards for webseeding (Azureus supporting both).
> > One is the BitTornado spec, which uses a PHP file to retrieve the necessary
> > bytes from the file thus allowing fine grain access control and the ability
> > to throttle. Since it sounds as though the videos would be available to
> > download directly from the server anyway, I would go with the GetRight
> > implementation which uses HTTP byte ranges to query the server directly,
> > eliminating the "middle-man" PHP file, but it loses the access control.
> >
> > The documentation for the module is a bit lacking at the moment, but
> > this should be fixed shortly.
> >
> > ~Chris
> >
> > On 9/28/07, mark burdett < mfburdett at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, for bittorrent you just need a tracker, which you can run from the
> > >
> > > command-line on a server, and then a .torrent file for each video (to
> > > generate the torrent file you just need the video file itself and the
> > > tracker url, and pass that into e.g. maketorrent-console).
> > >
> > > I'm not particularly motivated to create the torrents at the moment
> > > since download time for a video seems to be ~30 minutes, or shorter
> > > than the video itself.
> > >
> > > but at least for next time, it would be a good idea to post .torrent
> > > files simultaneously with the videos..
> > >
> > > --mark
> > >
> > > On 9/28/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard at killesreiter.de> wrote:
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> > > > Steven Peck schrieb:
> > > > > Isn't it called bit torrent? :)
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody have experience in setting these up? I've asked OSUOSL
> > > and
> > > > they have no experiecne with these things. Neither have I.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >         Gerhard
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> > --
> > Christopher P. Bradford
> >
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Christopher P. Bradford
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