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> 1. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much
> better choice? (Sam Boyer)
> 2. EER Diagram for MySQL (Brett Stoppel)
> 3. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much
> better choice? (Lyle Mantooth)
> 4. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Angela Byron)
> 5. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Fr?d?ric G. MARAND)
> 6. Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight GMT
> (Derek Wright)
> 7. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
> GMT (Jerad Bitner)
> 8. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
> GMT (Marjorie Roswell)
> 9. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
> GMT (Kathleen Murtagh)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:46 -0500
> From: Sam Boyer <drupal at samboyer.org>
> Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X
> is a much better choice?
> To: development at drupal.org
> Message-ID: <1217615566.12087.139.camel at thereishope>
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> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:18 -0700, Derek Wright wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Adrian Simmons wrote:
> >
> > > Can we have a commitment that *if* everything needing to be done
> > > that Angie kindly listed on http://drupal.org/node/289117 and links
> > > therefrom *gets done* we *will* move?
> >
> > Once upon a time, in a post someone with time and motivation could
> > surely find, Dries wrote something to the effect of:
> >
> > "I'd be happy to switch to something other than CVS _if all the
> > dependencies on CVS are safely removed and addressed_".
> >
> > (approximate quote from memory).
> >
> > - The #1 dependency on CVS is project_release.module.
> > - The #2 dependency on CVS is all the CVS account creation stuff.
> > - The #3 dependency on CVS are the CVS commit log viewing pages,
> > links on project nodes, etc.
> > - The best way to fix all of that is VersionControl API.
> > - There are pages dedicated to what needs to happen to get us closer,
> > already linked from Angie's wonderful document.
> >
> > If all that work is done, d.o is running VersionControl API with the
> > CVS backend, the SVN backend is demonstrated to be stable and working
> > on project.drupal.org, we've got the packaging script ported and
> > working, we've got the CVS -> SVN import documented and working,
> > we've got all the SVN access control worked out (per project like we
> > have now, preventing commits to tags, etc, etc), we've got something
> > like svn.drupal.org setup care of the OSUOSL, and we've got a team of
> > documentation folks lined up to go nuts, I can pretty safely
> > guarantee that Dries will say "Yay, go for it!".
> >
> > That still doesn't answer the question of how the choice of SVN vs.
> > XXX will ultimately be decided, nor if decree from Dries is good
> > enough for the switch. The lack of a clear process for making
> > decisions like this continues to haunt us. By default, a decree from
> > Dries (if he's willing to make it) carries the day. If not, I guess
> > decree from Dries on how to decide will be necessary.
> >
> > Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +
> > versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path. The
> > other stuff will be pretty easy (relatively speaking) once that's
> > done. Hurray to Sam for volunteering to help. But I can assure you
> > that more resources will be needed to finish the job.
>
> Indeed there will. Help is VERY welcome :)
>
> s
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Derek (dww)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:41:13 -0500
> From: "Brett Stoppel" <brett at telosstudios.com>
> Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
> To: development at drupal.org
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> Hi All.
>
> I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
> Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one
> already
> exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of
> applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask
> questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the
> column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if
> they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the
> diagram
> and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brett
>
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> Brett Stoppel
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> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:23:15 -0400
> From: Lyle Mantooth <lyle at ubercart.org>
> Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X
> is a much better choice?
> To: development at drupal.org
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> Derek Wright wrote:
> > Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +
> > versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path.
>
> Here's something I can try to help with. I'm sure there's a lot of
> research I need to do to get caught up, but this is a concrete goal I
> can work towards.
>
> -- Lyle
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:25:42 -0400
> From: Angela Byron <drupal-devel at webchick.net>
> Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
> To: development at drupal.org
> Message-ID: <48936336.4000805 at webchick.net>
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> Brett Stoppel wrote:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
> > Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one
> > already exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database
> > side of applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to
> > ask questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if
> > the column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary
> > keys or if they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done
> > on the diagram and then upload it for you all to review and make
> > suggestions.
>
> If you open up the module' .install files, or use the Schema module,
> there is already copious documentation on every single field in D6's
> schema. Foreign keys are documented with a particular syntax (I think
> it's {node}.nid but I forget). It'd be neat if you could somehow script
> it somehow so this could be automatically generated from one Drupal
> version to another, and for contributed modules as well.
>
> -Angie, who lost 2 months of her life documenting these fields. ;)
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:43:37 +0200
> From: Fr?d?ric G. MARAND <fgm at osinet.fr>
> Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
> To: <development at drupal.org>
> Message-ID: <8E1CEE7A68474E62840ED25EFEEE56A5 at PCdeMarand>
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> If you mean ERD, there are a few of them on d.o. and in CVS
> contrib/docs/developer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brett Stoppel
> To: development at drupal.org
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:41 PM
> Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
>
>
> Hi All.
>
> I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
> Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one
> already
> exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of
> applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask
> questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the
> column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if
> they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the
> diagram
> and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.
> [...]
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:26:05 -0700
> From: Derek Wright <drupal at dwwright.net>
> Subject: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
> 11pm-midnight GMT
> To: Development <development at drupal.org>
> Message-ID: <A20FD975-F181-47BE-86CA-91DC858B09B4 at dwwright.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we
> switch over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
>
> Cheers,
> -Derek (dww)
>
>
> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new
> server. ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:42:00 -0400
> From: "Jerad Bitner" <sirkitree at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
> 11pm-midnight GMT
> To: development at drupal.org
> Message-ID:
> <215a89c90808011642q2852342fsa24084415fa9dcc7 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal at dwwright.net> wrote:
>
> > Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
> > 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch
> > over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Derek (dww)
> >
> >
> > p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.
> ;)
> > Thanks, OSUOSL.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:16:43 -0400
> From: "Marjorie Roswell" <mroswell at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
> 11pm-midnight GMT
> To: development at drupal.org
> Message-ID:
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> There are certainly all kinds of humor ..... Oy.
>
> Here's a little acronym-laden poem, an evening break....
>
> Use SVN...
> No, CVS!
> It's PM now in East US
> (I wonder when is GMT?
> or how far off from PDT?
> The OSUOSL
> Is probably the one to tell.
>
> TTFN,
>
> Margie (mroswell)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <sirkitree at gmail.com> wrote:
> > HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal at dwwright.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
> >> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we
> switch
> >> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Derek (dww)
> >>
> >>
> >> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.
> >> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:43:00 -0400
> From: "Kathleen Murtagh" <kathleen at ceardach.com>
> Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
> 11pm-midnight GMT
> To: development at drupal.org
> Message-ID:
> <1d83e3e60808011743u563e5a5bgb3fce1698fe5d4b3 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> My heart did skip a beat, certainly.
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <sirkitree at gmail.com> wrote:
> > HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal at dwwright.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
> >> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we
> switch
> >> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Derek (dww)
> >>
> >>
> >> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.
> >> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
>
>
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Stuart
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