[development] So why we do support postgresql?

Oleg Terenchuk litwol at gmail.com
Wed Jan 16 05:49:38 UTC 2008

Bill you have stepped out of line. You are flaming a person you obviously
know nothing about, please be so kind to look at http://drupal.org/user/9446

On 1/16/08, Bill Moran <wmoran at potentialtech.com> wrote:
> "Khalid Baheyeldin" <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have to applaud those who go out of their way to test on PostgreSQL.
> > This is noble of you.
> >
> > I may start doing it at some point even ... (I did some benchmarks with
> > a guy from the list helping, sorry forgot his name).
> I believe that was me.  I'm sorry I haven't had more time to help out,
> but the personal issues I thought would be resolved by now are still
> a work in progress.
> > But think of it: how scalable and sustainable is this? What about other
> > databases? Will you do that for MS SQL (while running Mac/Linux?)
> > Oracle?
> The problem with this community is that it's oddly divided.  Is Drupal
> going to be database agnostic or not?  If the opinion of the community
> is that supporting multiple databases is worthwhile, then folks need to
> bite the bullet, accept that doing so is a _lot_ of work, and quit
> whining.
> The fellow who starts these threads every month or so needs to quit his
> damn whining and help out.  His bitching is a constant distraction.  And
> his excuse that he doesn't care about PostgreSQL is bull.  If Karoly
> doesn't care about a particular Drupal module, should everyone else quit
> caring as well?  If he doesn't want to support a less popular browser,
> like Firefox, should Drupal quit caring?
> Being database agnostic is not an easy goal.  The weak of resolve need
> not apply as they'll fail anyway.  But it seems to me that most of the
> Drupal developers are not going to be easily dissuaded.
> And why should they be?  If Karoly convinced them to give up Postgres
> support, next he'd convince them to give up IE support, then he'd scare
> them away from some other challenge or another.  Great projects don't get
> great by whining that "it's too hard" and backing down.
> As many have pointed out, it's not really about PostgreSQL ... it's about
> supporting multiple databases.  If Drupal drops PostgreSQL support, the
> overall goal of supporting multiple databases will suffer.  The approaches
> that folks are taking to abstract the database are the correct approaches,
> but they're not as easy as just giving up, and they'll take time.
> --
> Bill Moran
> http://www.potentialtech.com

Oleg Terenchuk
Web Manager / Developer
Phone: 917 - 306 - 5653
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