[development] So why we do support postgresql?

[Bill Moran]

"Oleg Terenchuk" <litwol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bill you have stepped out of line. You are flaming a person you obviously
> know nothing about, please be so kind to look at http://drupal.org/user/9446

My intent is not to "flame" anyone.

The only thing I know about Karoly is that he comes on this list about
every 30 days and starts whining about PostgreSQL.  Looking at the page
you directed me to, he has a lot of commits.  That's great, does it make
him immune to criticism?

I apologize to the community for stepping out of line.

> On 1/16/08, Bill Moran <wmoran at potentialtech.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Khalid Baheyeldin" <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to applaud those who go out of their way to test on PostgreSQL.
> > > This is noble of you.
> > >
> > > I may start doing it at some point even ... (I did some benchmarks with
> > > a guy from the list helping, sorry forgot his name).
> >
> > I believe that was me.  I'm sorry I haven't had more time to help out,
> > but the personal issues I thought would be resolved by now are still
> > a work in progress.
> >
> > > But think of it: how scalable and sustainable is this? What about other
> > > databases? Will you do that for MS SQL (while running Mac/Linux?)
> > > Oracle?
> >
> > The problem with this community is that it's oddly divided.  Is Drupal
> > going to be database agnostic or not?  If the opinion of the community
> > is that supporting multiple databases is worthwhile, then folks need to
> > bite the bullet, accept that doing so is a _lot_ of work, and quit
> > whining.
> >
> > The fellow who starts these threads every month or so needs to quit his
> > damn whining and help out.  His bitching is a constant distraction.  And
> > his excuse that he doesn't care about PostgreSQL is bull.  If Karoly
> > doesn't care about a particular Drupal module, should everyone else quit
> > caring as well?  If he doesn't want to support a less popular browser,
> > like Firefox, should Drupal quit caring?
> >
> > Being database agnostic is not an easy goal.  The weak of resolve need
> > not apply as they'll fail anyway.  But it seems to me that most of the
> > Drupal developers are not going to be easily dissuaded.
> >
> > And why should they be?  If Karoly convinced them to give up Postgres
> > support, next he'd convince them to give up IE support, then he'd scare
> > them away from some other challenge or another.  Great projects don't get
> > great by whining that "it's too hard" and backing down.
> >
> > As many have pointed out, it's not really about PostgreSQL ... it's about
> > supporting multiple databases.  If Drupal drops PostgreSQL support, the
> > overall goal of supporting multiple databases will suffer.  The approaches
> > that folks are taking to abstract the database are the correct approaches,
> > but they're not as easy as just giving up, and they'll take time.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Moran
> > http://www.potentialtech.com
> >
> 
> 
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> Oleg Terenchuk
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Bill Moran
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