[development] Voting on issues (was Re: How to post bug reports andpatches)

Tomas Fulopp tjfulopp at gmail.com
Tue Nov 4 17:32:47 UTC 2008

I've weighed my worries.. and the heaviest one is indeed that continued
discussion (though I don't think it's been bike-shedding) will stifle the
action. I admire the body of your work and comments, Derek, so if there are
no better quickly achievable solutions I can agree with your proposal of
going with what we have and improve further later.
How can it be done and when?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Derek Wright <drupal at dwwright.net> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:09 AM, Tomas Fulopp wrote:
>  Simple accumulative voting on issues (+1 system, one per user per issue)
>> is
>> a) simpler and therefore more elegant, and even more importantly:
> Not necessarily true.  That's just your opinion.
>  b) people use it intuitively already - they add those cluttering
>> "Subscribing" messages because they have no other way of doing this. If
>> limited vote was applied, bumping the issue by saying "Subscribing" would
>> continue whenever one runs out of votes (even if such messages would not be
>> counted as votes).
> That's going to happen anyway.  Even if we add a way to subscribe or vote
> on issues without commenting, people will continue to post meaningless
> comments.  This isn't an argument for or against any of the proposed
> changes.
>  Keep up the good ideas flowing, let's make the best system possible.
> The best system possible is one that people can actually use. ;)  Far too
> many threads about improving d.o in some way die at exactly this stage --
> endless discussion, no action.  In this case, there's already code that
> exists, was written by members of the security team, works, and is ready to
> deploy.  If we go back to the drawing board now for another few months of
> speculation and bike-shedding about "the best system possible", I'll bet $20
> that the code never materializes and none of it, even the stuff that already
> works, will be used.
> I'm not trying to be defeatist or stifle anyone's initiative, but in this
> case, I think it's time to invoke one of Drupal's oldest mantras: "Talk is
> silver, code is gold".  Or something along the lines of "let not perfection
> be the barrier of progress" (or however that goes).
> How about we get the current thing running and see how it goes for a few
> months, and then have some actual data and experience to use to discuss
> further improvements?  That approach seems to have served the "make the
> handbooks a wiki" experiment well, let's do it again.
> Cheers,
> -Derek (dww)
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