[documentation] wiki style help pages

[Shai Gluskin]

Hi Ricco,

I'm still confused after reading your e-mail which of the following is your
primary passion right now:

a. making Drupal, the software, a really great platform for wiki
implementations

or

b. improving wiki functionality for the documentation sections at Drupal.org
.

Though you can argue that a and b are certainly related, I think it would
help folks to understand which of the two is your first interest in order to
figure out the best way for you to get involved.

As an FYI, in order to see the "edit" tab on documentation pages at
drupal.org, one need only join the documentation team, by submitting a
request at http://drupal.org/project/documentation.

It can be a little tricky figuring out exactly how and where to help in
Drupal, especially at the beginning. But I really hope you figure it out. I
myself am very much interested in developing wiki functionality on a couple
of sites right now and I too think that Drupal can be way more powerful with
easier UI than Mediawiki.

All the best,

Shai
content2zero <http://content2zero.com>

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM, <ricco at webulite.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I tried to begin a group called http://groups.drupal.org/wikihelp after
> someone in the wiki group suggested I start a group.
>
> The group moderators posted me asking for more information about the goals
>
> you can see that response at http://groups.drupal.org/node/10369
>
> I am getting the impression the group I would like to start is not going
> to be approved. One of the Drupal Gods posted me and suggested I join the
> documentation email list, so here I am.
>
> It seems to me that wiki documentation would be much more useful if it
> incorporated wiki functionality. Allowing people (perhaps members only) to
> edit pages as wikipedia.org allows, AND allows the freelinking feature to
> allow one to include [[page name]] type references. Which are both
> currently possible with the groups.drupal.org pages, but not drupal.org
> pages which are where the documentation pages seem to be. In addition,
> there is no "Edit" tab in Drupal doc pages allowing users to edit them. I
> believe Doc editing should be incredibly simple and obvious for even the
> most beginning user, if you hope to get your users involved in
> participating in documentation. And the wiki environment seems to be such
> an obvious documentation environment implementation. Look at the
> popularity of wikipedia.org.
>
> I have talked with folks in the IRC chat, the wiki group, and recently
> tried to as you see start groups.drupal.org/WikiHelp
>
> Am I barking up the wrong tree? Am I fighting against the philsophy of the
> Drupal developer community? If so, I will just fade into the woodwork, and
> become a Drupal user, instead of attempting to get involved in helping to
> write documentation for the beginner level.
>
> If, on the other hand, there is a wiki project happening, or one about to
> happen that I am unaware of... I would appreciate people turning me on to
> it. I would be happy to spend time helping to doucment wiki functionality
> of Drupal, and even get involved in documenting other non-wiki
> functionality of drupal if Drupal is working on any kind of wiki
> documentation project. I have worked on documentation and tech writing and
> tech support in the past, so I have some experience. I would be willing
> and happy to be involved in helping with the very beginning documentation
> for beginning users, so that more people that look at Drupal start with
> it, instead of turning to a mediawiki install because it seems simple to
> get up. In the long run, and even the short run, Drupals permissioning
> system make Drupal a superior choice for a wiki implementation, so if we
> can make setting up a wiki easier for even the most beginning site
> manager, we will capture more initial installs.
>
> I got the time and the interest, if someone can direct me.
>
> Cheers! Ricco
>
>
>
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