[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place

Kristof Van Tomme kvantomme at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 19:09:13 UTC 2009


George, I would love to work with you on this resource collection
system. Especially if we can make this resource collection
multi-lingual this could be of great value.

-Probably for bandwidth reasons it would be easiest to implement this
as a sort of bookmark service.
-Resources captured on Drupal events should be a great way to create a
basic resource library (e.g. movies from Drupalcons)
-You could implement a policy of quality comments (e.g. rating) on the
resource site, content comments on the site where the resource is
hosted to prevent duplication.
-I'm a bit afraid of the energy aspect that Addi pointed out,
especially if it's only a few people that are pushing this project,
it's going to get though to find the energy after a couple of months
of resource collecting. So it will be important to make it really
simple to add resources (e.g. with bookmarklets).

Which brings me to one of the projects we've been working on:
Some time ago I started playing with knowledge management in Drupal,
back then I made this proof of concept site druplet.org: you define a
problem you are trying to solve and then with a with a bookmarklet you
submit text snippets that help you solve the problem.

So while you do your research you build a "knowledge trail" for future
reference that also becomes a resource for the community. It's built
on top of neologism a semantic web project from Stephane Corlosquet,
which adds some cool possibilities to reuse the knowledge vocabulary
that is being built, but that doesn't really matter for the end user.

We could expand this site so that it gets more intuitive to submit
other types of resources than text (e.g. video and audio).

I've got a movie up about this project at
http://www.pronovix.com/solution/druplet-knowledge-management-system-drupal-built-drupal
you can also check it out live at druplet.org

Cheers,
Kristof


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2009/2/3 Addison Berry <drupal at rocktreesky.com>:
>
> On Jan 18, 2009, at 2:04 PM, George wrote:
>
>>> So, I'd like to put together a site that collects these resources
>>> together, but not a simple aggregation site as there are also some
>>> not
>>> so excellent resources! Also, I think a simple RSS fed aggregation
>>> site becomes too large, difficult to search, of varying quality, and
>>> therefore pointless.
>>>
>>> Whether this site is to be a separate domain, or a subdomain on D.O
>>> is
>>> unknown at this point. I can't currently see it fitting into the
>>> current Drupal site, but with the redesign, who knows? (Hopefully
>>> someone does!)
>
> I think this would be easier to determine once we saw the site in
> action. I could also quite easily see a third-party resources
> "section" though.
>
>>> I'd like to have some sort of quality control, but I understand one
>>> man's rubbish is another man's gold. However, we all know quality
>>> when
>>> we see it. Should there be some sort of community voting? I'm not so
>>> sure, I don't believe in +1, nor stars as these can be easily
>>> manipulated, and people vote for different reasons, not just the
>>> usefulness of the content involved.
>
> Agreed, this is the tricky bit of having moderated content vs. whole-
> sale aggregation. I don't know what the answer is in terms of the
> community. If it is your personal site, well you get to decide what
> goes in and what doesn't. :-) If it would be a larger Drupal community
> site, then there would need to some clearly defined criteria for what
> would be added. Not sure how narrowly that can be defined though. :-/
>
>>> Maybe there should be a team of
>>> people who say 'this goes whilst this stays'? Would you be interested
>>> in helping out here?
>
> I personally would not want to get into that game unless there were
> clear criteria that made it less a personal judgment call. I don't
> have the energy for endless battles with people over why I didn't
> include their work while adding some rivals. I'm definitely not saying
> that have a team of moderators to sift through content is bad at all,
> simply that it isn't something I myself would have time/energy for
> these days.
>
>>> Also, I'd like some sort of community to be built around the site to
>>> encourage people coming back to the site, maybe to add their own
>>> tuition videos, add new presentations, make requests maybe etc. I'd
>>> like to encourage people to ask questions on the video, like in a
>>> comments structure maybe, so that questions and answers are in a sane
>>> place. And, to encourage video/slide makers to supply some notes to
>>> fill in hte missing gaps. I have no idea what format to structure
>>> this
>>> community around, so once again, ideas would be welcomed!
>
> Sounds ambitious (not that that's bad!). I know that for me it takes a
> lot of work just to get videos/tutorials done and put out. While I try
> to keep minimal tabs on the stuff once I release, I really don't have
> the time for extended care and feeding. The other thing to keep in
> mind, is if folks release something on their site and it gets added to
> your site, you now have two places for conversations to happen which
> can cause forking of discussions and repetition. I don't even have
> time to keep up with the discussions on my own (or company) site where
> I release stuff, much less yet another site too. Just something to
> think about.
>
> All-in-all I think the overall idea is good, though tricky to
> implement well. I'd love to see this site and have a chance to try
> ideas out and see if a solid solution could be distilled that we could
> use on d.o. It would be an amazing resource, so please make sure you
> keep us in the loop as you work on it.
>
> - Addi
>
>
>
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