[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place

Tue Feb 10 15:46:50 UTC 2009

I've prepared a mindmap agenda for the meeting that will take place in
1h15 min - to make it easier to take notes (see attached)

If you have any points you think we should discuss that you can't see
here, send a reply please.

Cheers,
Kristof

If you don't use mindmap it's the following points:

3 strategies
    dojo like class series
    aggregate the worthy
    aggregate everything

what kind of materials
    audio
    video
    online
    written?

how to promote materials?
    community vote
        advantages
        disadvantages
    rating squad
        advantages
        disadvantages

storage strategy
    own servers
    using places like the internet archive

integration with d.o.

multi lingual content

2009/2/9 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
> Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?
>
> Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check
> your timezone!
>
> If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:
> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>
> I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?
>
>
> cheers,
> Kristof
>
>
>
> 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>> Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,
>>
>> We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday
>> or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.
>>
>> If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the
>> brainstorming vote at:
>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>
>> cheers,
>> Kristof
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like Monday or
>>> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim
>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806) to get everyone on the same page for
>>> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a top
>>> priority.
>>>
>>> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she has a
>>> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any innovation
>>> makes it back into the official documentation.
>>>
>>> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and we'll
>>> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good thread to
>>> jump in - http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832) and #drupal-dojo IRC.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok, i've put some times in too!
>>>>
>>>> Addison Berry wrote:
>>>> > I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not consider
>>>> > myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone
>>>> > else, please go with it.
>>>> >
>>>> > - Addi
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up
>>>> >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>> >>
>>>> >> cheers,
>>>> >> Kristof
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives
>>>> >>> complimentary
>>>> >>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give
>>>> >>> you some
>>>> >>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of
>>>> >>> them -
>>>> >>> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
>>>> >>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create
>>>> >>> something
>>>> >>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official
>>>> >>> channels
>>>> >>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,
>>>> >>> and it
>>>> >>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very
>>>> >>> valuable to
>>>> >>> the community.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Come join the fun!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
>>>> >>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late
>>>> >>>> at
>>>> >>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Hi George,
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
>>>> >>>>> the bookmarks.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> What about
>>>> >>>>> -multi-lingual resources?
>>>> >>>>> -my offer to help?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the
>>>> >>>>> next
>>>> >>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
>>>> >>>>> Paris wins).
>>>> >>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>>> Kristof
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> 2009/2/4 George <g at 8vue.com>:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.
>>>> >>>>>> That's why
>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
>>>> >>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though)
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> allow the site to grow.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that
>>>> >>>>>> was the
>>>> >>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!
>>>> >>>>>> maybe it
>>>> >>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway
>>>> >>>>>> to track
>>>> >>>>>> the comments on the original site...
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would
>>>> >>>>>> assume
>>>> >>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio,
>>>> >>>>>> or
>>>> >>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different
>>>> >>>>>> explanations of
>>>> >>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
>>>> >>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they
>>>> >>>>>> favour one
>>>> >>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for
>>>> >>>>>> videos.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)
>>>> >>>>>> how to
>>>> >>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed
>>>> >>>>>> off
>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
>>>> >>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them
>>>> >>>>>> off for
>>>> >>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better
>>>> >>>>>> vids, which
>>>> >>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
>>>> >>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under
>>>> >>>>>> cck
>>>> >>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
>>>> >>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk
>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these
>>>> >>>>>> two.
>>>> >>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting
>>>> >>>>>> resources to
>>>> >>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where
>>>> >>>>>> necessary.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and
>>>> >>>>>> start
>>>> >>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?
>>>> >>>>>> --
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>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>
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