[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place
George
g at 8vue.com
Tue Feb 10 16:18:00 UTC 2009
thanks kristof, i'd like to add:
briefly discuss the building and managing of the multilingual community
- ie. content/comments/posts will be in a non-english language, so who
will be able to moderate that content/comments / posts etc, and how do
we go about getting those people! (this is important because drupal is
worldwide, so why should ppl struggle with one great english-only
resource-site).
tying in the existing (and future) videos of dcons, dcamps, etc.
that's the only extra things i can think of for now!
cheers
Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
> I've prepared a mindmap agenda for the meeting that will take place in
> 1h15 min - to make it easier to take notes (see attached)
>
> If you have any points you think we should discuss that you can't see
> here, send a reply please.
>
> Cheers,
> Kristof
>
>
> If you don't use mindmap it's the following points:
>
> 3 strategies
> dojo like class series
> aggregate the worthy
> aggregate everything
>
> what kind of materials
> audio
> video
> online
> written?
>
> how to promote materials?
> community vote
> advantages
> disadvantages
> rating squad
> advantages
> disadvantages
>
> storage strategy
> own servers
> using places like the internet archive
>
> integration with d.o.
>
> multi lingual content
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/2/9 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>
>> Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?
>>
>> Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check
>> your timezone!
>>
>> If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:
>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>
>> I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Kristof
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,
>>>
>>> We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday
>>> or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.
>>>
>>> If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the
>>> brainstorming vote at:
>>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Kristof
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>>
>>>> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like Monday or
>>>> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim
>>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806) to get everyone on the same page for
>>>> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a top
>>>> priority.
>>>>
>>>> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she has a
>>>> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any innovation
>>>> makes it back into the official documentation.
>>>>
>>>> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and we'll
>>>> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good thread to
>>>> jump in - http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832) and #drupal-dojo IRC.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok, i've put some times in too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Addison Berry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not consider
>>>>>> myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone
>>>>>> else, please go with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Addi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up
>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Kristof
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives
>>>>>>>> complimentary
>>>>>>>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give
>>>>>>>> you some
>>>>>>>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of
>>>>>>>> them -
>>>>>>>> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
>>>>>>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official
>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,
>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very
>>>>>>>> valuable to
>>>>>>>> the community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Come join the fun!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
>>>>>>>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi George,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
>>>>>>>>>> the bookmarks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What about
>>>>>>>>>> -multi-lingual resources?
>>>>>>>>>> -my offer to help?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
>>>>>>>>>> Paris wins).
>>>>>>>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Kristof
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/4 George <g at 8vue.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.
>>>>>>>>>>> That's why
>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
>>>>>>>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though)
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> allow the site to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that
>>>>>>>>>>> was the
>>>>>>>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe it
>>>>>>>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway
>>>>>>>>>>> to track
>>>>>>>>>>> the comments on the original site...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would
>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio,
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different
>>>>>>>>>>> explanations of
>>>>>>>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
>>>>>>>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they
>>>>>>>>>>> favour one
>>>>>>>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for
>>>>>>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)
>>>>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed
>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
>>>>>>>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them
>>>>>>>>>>> off for
>>>>>>>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better
>>>>>>>>>>> vids, which
>>>>>>>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
>>>>>>>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under
>>>>>>>>>>> cck
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
>>>>>>>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these
>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting
>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where
>>>>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and
>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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