[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place

George g at 8vue.com
Tue Feb 10 16:56:20 UTC 2009


room has been opened called drupaldojo

George wrote:
> thanks kristof, i'd like to add:
>
> briefly discuss the building and managing of the multilingual community 
> - ie. content/comments/posts will be in a non-english language, so who 
> will be able to moderate that content/comments / posts etc, and how do 
> we go about getting those people! (this is important because drupal is 
> worldwide, so why should ppl struggle with one great english-only 
> resource-site).
>
> tying in the existing (and future) videos of dcons, dcamps, etc.
>
> that's the only extra things i can think of for now!
> cheers
>
>
> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>   
>> I've prepared a mindmap agenda for the meeting that will take place in
>> 1h15 min - to make it easier to take notes (see attached)
>>
>> If you have any points you think we should discuss that you can't see
>> here, send a reply please.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kristof
>>
>>
>> If you don't use mindmap it's the following points:
>>
>> 3 strategies
>>     dojo like class series
>>     aggregate the worthy
>>     aggregate everything
>>
>> what kind of materials
>>     audio
>>     video
>>     online
>>     written?
>>
>> how to promote materials?
>>     community vote
>>         advantages
>>         disadvantages
>>     rating squad
>>         advantages
>>         disadvantages
>>
>> storage strategy
>>     own servers
>>     using places like the internet archive
>>
>> integration with d.o.
>>
>> multi lingual content
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/9 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>>   
>>     
>>> Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?
>>>
>>> Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check
>>> your timezone!
>>>
>>> If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:
>>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>
>>> I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Kristof
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,
>>>>
>>>> We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday
>>>> or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the
>>>> brainstorming vote at:
>>>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Kristof
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like Monday or
>>>>> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim
>>>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806) to get everyone on the same page for
>>>>> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a top
>>>>> priority.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she has a
>>>>> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any innovation
>>>>> makes it back into the official documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and we'll
>>>>> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good thread to
>>>>> jump in - http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832) and #drupal-dojo IRC.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> ok, i've put some times in too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Addison Berry wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not consider
>>>>>>> myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone
>>>>>>> else, please go with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Addi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up
>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>> Kristof
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives
>>>>>>>>> complimentary
>>>>>>>>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give
>>>>>>>>> you some
>>>>>>>>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of
>>>>>>>>> them -
>>>>>>>>> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
>>>>>>>>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official
>>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,
>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very
>>>>>>>>> valuable to
>>>>>>>>> the community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Come join the fun!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
>>>>>>>>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi George,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
>>>>>>>>>>> the bookmarks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What about
>>>>>>>>>>> -multi-lingual resources?
>>>>>>>>>>> -my offer to help?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the
>>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
>>>>>>>>>>> Paris wins).
>>>>>>>>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Kristof
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/4 George <g at 8vue.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though)
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> allow the site to grow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that
>>>>>>>>>>>> was the
>>>>>>>>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe it
>>>>>>>>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway
>>>>>>>>>>>> to track
>>>>>>>>>>>> the comments on the original site...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio,
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different
>>>>>>>>>>>> explanations of
>>>>>>>>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they
>>>>>>>>>>>> favour one
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for
>>>>>>>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)
>>>>>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed
>>>>>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
>>>>>>>>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them
>>>>>>>>>>>> off for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better
>>>>>>>>>>>> vids, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
>>>>>>>>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under
>>>>>>>>>>>> cck
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these
>>>>>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting
>>>>>>>>>>>> resources to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and
>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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