[documentation] Collecting Drupal presentations / videos / resources together in one sane place

Tue Feb 10 16:56:17 UTC 2009

I opened this Dimdim room -
http://webmeeting.dimdim.com:80/portal/JoinForm.action?meetingRoomName=drupaldojo

If it doesn't work out, we can talk on skype or irc.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>wrote:

> I've prepared a mindmap agenda for the meeting that will take place in
> 1h15 min - to make it easier to take notes (see attached)
>
> If you have any points you think we should discuss that you can't see
> here, send a reply please.
>
> Cheers,
> Kristof
>
>
> If you don't use mindmap it's the following points:
>
> 3 strategies
>    dojo like class series
>    aggregate the worthy
>    aggregate everything
>
> what kind of materials
>    audio
>    video
>    online
>    written?
>
> how to promote materials?
>    community vote
>        advantages
>        disadvantages
>    rating squad
>        advantages
>        disadvantages
>
> storage strategy
>    own servers
>    using places like the internet archive
>
> integration with d.o.
>
> multi lingual content
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/2/9 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
> > Interested in Drupal materials infrastructure?
> >
> > Meet us at the Dojo's Dimdim tomorrow (Tuesday) at 6pm CET+1 - check
> > your timezone!
> >
> > If you want to join but you didn't sign up on the doodle poll yet:
> > http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
> >
> > I haven't used the Dojo Dimdim yet, so Addi or Gus can you take the lead?
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > Kristof
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/2/6 Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi Gus, and all others interested in Drupal resource aggregation,
> >>
> >> We can of course hold that meeting at the Dojo's Dimdim, either Monday
> >> or Tuesday 6pm seems to be an option right now.
> >>
> >> If you haven't signed up yet but you would like to be part of the
> >> brainstorming vote at:
> >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Kristof
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
> >>> I was planning on scheduling another planning session (looks like
> Monday or
> >>> Tuesday might work best) using Dojo's Dimdim
> >>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/17806) to get everyone on the same page
> for
> >>> the Dojo project. As previously mentioned, the aggregation element is a
> top
> >>> priority.
> >>>
> >>> Would be great to have Addi involved in the convo, but either way, she
> has a
> >>> good deal of knowledge about the Dojo and will make sure that any
> innovation
> >>> makes it back into the official documentation.
> >>>
> >>> If that sounds good, I'll schedule a session for early next week and
> we'll
> >>> keep the conversations going in the Drupal Groups (this is a good
> thread to
> >>> jump in - http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832) and #drupal-dojo IRC.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ok, i've put some times in too!
> >>>>
> >>>> Addison Berry wrote:
> >>>> > I have plugged in some times that I'm available, but I do not
> consider
> >>>> > myself essential in any way, so if a better time works for everyone
> >>>> > else, please go with it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > - Addi
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Hi,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Can we maybe have a Skype meetup on the topic?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I made a doodle, so if you are interested, just sign up
> >>>> >> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fg3pem2nnt8m7acu
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> cheers,
> >>>> >> Kristof
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> 2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus at pepperalley.com>:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> Hi,
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives
> >>>> >>> complimentary
> >>>> >>> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give
> >>>> >>> you some
> >>>> >>> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of
> >>>> >>> them -
> >>>> >>> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own
> subproject
> >>>> >>> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create
> >>>> >>> something
> >>>> >>> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official
> >>>> >>> channels
> >>>> >>> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together,
> >>>> >>> and it
> >>>> >>> would great to combine forces build something that would be very
> >>>> >>> valuable to
> >>>> >>> the community.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Come join the fun!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
> >>>> >>>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails
> late
> >>>> >>>> at
> >>>> >>>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Hi George,
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is
> about
> >>>> >>>>> the bookmarks.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> What about
> >>>> >>>>> -multi-lingual resources?
> >>>> >>>>> -my offer to help?
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the
> >>>> >>>>> next
> >>>> >>>>> European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly
> if
> >>>> >>>>> Paris wins).
> >>>> >>>>> -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>> >>>>> Kristof
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> 2009/2/4 George <g at 8vue.com>:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption.
> >>>> >>>>>> That's why
> >>>> >>>>>> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
> >>>> >>>>>> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members
> though)
> >>>> >>>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>> allow the site to grow.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that
> >>>> >>>>>> was the
> >>>> >>>>>> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks!
> >>>> >>>>>> maybe it
> >>>> >>>>>> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway
> >>>> >>>>>> to track
> >>>> >>>>>> the comments on the original site...
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I
> would
> >>>> >>>>>> assume
> >>>> >>>>>> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual,
> audio,
> >>>> >>>>>> or
> >>>> >>>>>> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different
> >>>> >>>>>> explanations of
> >>>> >>>>>> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to
> have
> >>>> >>>>>> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they
> >>>> >>>>>> favour one
> >>>> >>>>>> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for
> >>>> >>>>>> videos.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly)
> >>>> >>>>>> how to
> >>>> >>>>>> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed
> >>>> >>>>>> off
> >>>> >>>>>> with
> >>>> >>>>>> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
> >>>> >>>>>> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them
> >>>> >>>>>> off for
> >>>> >>>>>> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better
> >>>> >>>>>> vids, which
> >>>> >>>>>> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With
> 200
> >>>> >>>>>> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged
> under
> >>>> >>>>>> cck
> >>>> >>>>>> wouldn't turn me on.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
> >>>> >>>>>> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at
> risk
> >>>> >>>>>> of
> >>>> >>>>>> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these
> >>>> >>>>>> two.
> >>>> >>>>>> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting
> >>>> >>>>>> resources to
> >>>> >>>>>> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where
> >>>> >>>>>> necessary.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and
> >>>> >>>>>> start
> >>>> >>>>>> with
> >>>> >>>>>> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Any other ideas/suggestions?
> >>>> >>>>>> --
> >>>> >>>>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> >>>>>> List archives:
> http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> --
> >>>> >>>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> >>>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>> >>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> >>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>> --
> >>>> >>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> >>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> >> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> > List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Pending work: http://drupal.org/project/issues/documentation/
> >>> List archives: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/documentation/
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> --
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