[support] HTML template with drupal in background

Tue Aug 15 17:43:45 UTC 2006

Thanks David,

No No, directness helps a lot.  We had a talk about ditching the whole thing just this morning but decided to take it the last yard after talking with the programmer.

Still using drupal, fixed some of the issues, and its starting to come around. The theme is customized, and the modules are pretty much spaghetti, but I'm getting my head around it.  Eventually I'll get it cleaned up but now I'm just trying to get it launched.  ^_^

D

"Metzler, David" <metzlerd at evergreen.edu> wrote:     I would strongly encourage you to have a look at  customizing the drupal themes.  There's not much that you can't change in  terms of how drupal looks.  If you have file level access you can customize  a great deal of the html that drupal outputs, particularly if using drupal  4.7.  It is quite simple if you take a gander at the drupal theming  handbook, and then modify the template files found in the themes  directory.  You could certainly comment out a great deal of the html  produced if that is really your desire.  I don't advise it, however.  

 I'm currenlty in the process of developing a module that's  actually handling form posts, and reading/writing data to a separate database,  and only using drupal to provide the HTML producing API, just so that I don't  have to write a CSM in my own app. 

 If you're really  trying to get drupal to NOT handle the html, you should consider abandoning the  product as you've already indicated.  IMHO it would be better than trying  to kludge together the product.  

 Drupal is after-all first and formost a CMS. So if you're  don't want to use drupal to provide look and feel, I think you'd be better off  not using it all. 

 Hope you don't mind me being direct here.  Good luck,  

 Dave

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 From:  support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of  Mil Imon
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:41 AM
To:  support at drupal.org
Subject: [support] HTML template with drupal in  background

I'm the project manager for a large website.
I've been hired to  take over for a contract that is 3 months overdue.
The programmer chose  drupal and has a substantial but not-functional site designed.
The owner  wants to use the design, but doesn't like drupal's layout which is more suited  for blogs than a commercial venue.
I offered to copy the drupal layout into  HTML pages and solve the infamous drupal screen resizing problems.
This also  allows us to walk-around drupal on its other limitations such as custom  templates not fitting standard modules.
The problems getting drupal to output  back IN to the HTML. I've no problem submitting the data correctly, but drupal  always "wants" to output a full html page when all I want it to do is give me  back the SQL data and some content.

When I use a FORM action I can direct  drupal to another page, but this only works haphazardly, and I'd like a more  seemless interaction with drupal NOT handling the HTML!

I really need  some suggestions on this.

The drupal programmer went on VACATION with the  contract still unfilled and now four months overdue.  We are paying 250.00  a day in site expenses until I can solve this problem, allowing us to terminate  the contract and apply for remunerations.

If it were not for the active  and supportive drupal community, this programmer would have burned me forever -  causing me to hate drupal.  We bought the drupal book and I've been using  it, and I'm slowly starting to like it, despite its limitations.

I've  only been learning drupal for 45 days and have this dysfunctional site dropped  in my lap so I've really got my hands full: deciding which directions to lead,  reviewing whether to abandon the entire product, to continue using drupal, and  so on.  This is quite a headache.  Has anyone else had this happen to  them? What did you do?

My reaction after nearly 2 months at this, trying  to squeeze more work out of a contractor, is to ditch drupal and use straight  html with a shopping cart from our host company. I don't hate it, but it stands  between us and commercial success.

D

Greg Knaddison  - GVS <Greg at GrowingVentureSolutions.com> wrote: On    8/10/06, Josh Milane wrote:
> Wikipage
>
>    I guess I am doing it wrong.

Did you enable the correct access control    for the module?

>
> I cant wrap my head around    Drupal.

It can be little confusing at first (as are all CMS/CBF), but    gets
easier and is well worth a little    effort.

Regards,
Greg

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