[support] HTML template with drupal in background

[Metzler, David]

I would strongly encourage you to have a look at customizing the drupal
themes.  There's not much that you can't change in terms of how drupal
looks.  If you have file level access you can customize a great deal of
the html that drupal outputs, particularly if using drupal 4.7.  It is
quite simple if you take a gander at the drupal theming handbook, and
then modify the template files found in the themes directory.  You could
certainly comment out a great deal of the html produced if that is
really your desire.  I don't advise it, however. 
 
I'm currenlty in the process of developing a module that's actually
handling form posts, and reading/writing data to a separate database,
and only using drupal to provide the HTML producing API, just so that I
don't have to write a CSM in my own app. 
 
If you're really trying to get drupal to NOT handle the html, you should
consider abandoning the product as you've already indicated.  IMHO it
would be better than trying to kludge together the product.  
 
Drupal is after-all first and formost a CMS. So if you're don't want to
use drupal to provide look and feel, I think you'd be better off not
using it all. 
 
Hope you don't mind me being direct here.  Good luck, 
 
Dave
 
 
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From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On
Behalf Of Mil Imon
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:41 AM
To: support at drupal.org
Subject: [support] HTML template with drupal in background


I'm the project manager for a large website.
I've been hired to take over for a contract that is 3 months overdue.
The programmer chose drupal and has a substantial but not-functional
site designed.
The owner wants to use the design, but doesn't like drupal's layout
which is more suited for blogs than a commercial venue.
I offered to copy the drupal layout into HTML pages and solve the
infamous drupal screen resizing problems.
This also allows us to walk-around drupal on its other limitations such
as custom templates not fitting standard modules.
The problems getting drupal to output back IN to the HTML. I've no
problem submitting the data correctly, but drupal always "wants" to
output a full html page when all I want it to do is give me back the SQL
data and some content.

When I use a FORM action I can direct drupal to another page, but this
only works haphazardly, and I'd like a more seemless interaction with
drupal NOT handling the HTML!

I really need some suggestions on this.

The drupal programmer went on VACATION with the contract still unfilled
and now four months overdue.  We are paying 250.00 a day in site
expenses until I can solve this problem, allowing us to terminate the
contract and apply for remunerations.

If it were not for the active and supportive drupal community, this
programmer would have burned me forever - causing me to hate drupal.  We
bought the drupal book and I've been using it, and I'm slowly starting
to like it, despite its limitations.

I've only been learning drupal for 45 days and have this dysfunctional
site dropped in my lap so I've really got my hands full: deciding which
directions to lead, reviewing whether to abandon the entire product, to
continue using drupal, and so on.  This is quite a headache.  Has anyone
else had this happen to them? What did you do?

My reaction after nearly 2 months at this, trying to squeeze more work
out of a contractor, is to ditch drupal and use straight html with a
shopping cart from our host company. I don't hate it, but it stands
between us and commercial success.

D



Greg Knaddison - GVS <Greg at GrowingVentureSolutions.com> wrote: 

	On 8/10/06, Josh Milane wrote:
	> Wikipage
	>
	> I guess I am doing it wrong.
	
	Did you enable the correct access control for the module?
	
	>
	> I cant wrap my head around Drupal.
	
	It can be little confusing at first (as are all CMS/CBF), but
gets
	easier and is well worth a little effort.
	
	Regards,
	Greg
	
	
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