[themes] Re: themes Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23
Øivind Binde
omb at binde.net
Wed May 31 14:37:56 UTC 2006
I would give my vote too this icon package:
http://www.silvestre.com.ar/wp-content/uploaded/Neu-0.6-PR3.tar.bz2
morphir
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> 1. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
> (Christian Berg)
> 2. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Laura Scott)
> 3. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Trae McCombs)
> 4. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (grohk)
> 5. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
> (Vladimir Zlatanov)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:55:22 +0200
> From: Christian Berg <xeniac at gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
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> Just an idea for Drupal 4.99: Icon-Themes!
>
> Booth GNOME and KDE have support for themes AND icon-themes.
> Maybe we could add an slick and KISS way for this feature.
> theme('icon','apply');
> If somebody want's an Tango-Iconset, we could host something like this
> on an external Drupal "Fan-Page".
>
> Additional: Many New Drupal-Contrib Themes are based on oswd.org
> Designs, that have some restrictions too.
> for example the andreas01 Theme based on the andreas01 oswd.org Design:
>
> "If you like this layout and would like to use it in any way, you are
> free to do so. All I ask for is that you leave the "Design by Andreas
> Viklund" link in the footer of the site. If you would like to remove
> that line, or if you are interested in professional services that are
> related to webdesign or this layout (such as custom design, branding,
> scripting or programming), please contact me through my website for more
> information!"
>
> Sounds Simmilar to the "CC Bronze" Restrictions to me.
>
> Maybe Drupal Developers should split up the Code from the Presentation
> also on their Repositories.
> Drupal.org only hosts Drupal Core and Drupal Code that is absolutly GPL.
> Drupal-Mods.net or something simmilar hosts a collection of
> Drupal-Themes, -Hacks, -Mods, Icon-Themes, Whatever, related to Drupal
> but with other licenses.
>
> Am Dienstag, den 30.05.2006, 22:22 +0200 schrieb Bèr Kessels:
>
>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:08:21 -0600
> From: Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com>
> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
> Cc: infrastructure at drupal.org
> Message-ID: <6C281D70-6F88-4F04-AEAC-056205968897 at pingv.com>
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> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about images.
>
>
>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public
>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.
>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit
>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>
>
> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more than
> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But that
> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>
> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>
> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their website.
> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require attribution,
> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the arrow-
> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>
>
>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>
>
> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>
> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain Dedication of
> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be enforceable
> outside of the US.)
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>
>
>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let us move
>> forward.
>>
>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>
>> Here are some possibilities:
>>
>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>> resizeable
>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several good
>> options imho.
>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> (not
>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>> content=1581 --
>> not sure about licence
>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>
>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>
>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>
>> Bèr
>> --
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>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:15:32 -0400
> From: "Trae McCombs" <traemccombs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
> To: "A list for theme developers" <themes at drupal.org>
> Message-ID:
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> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git2
>
> Jakub pointed this out to me. It follows the Tango Guidelines, yet is GPL.
> Perhaps it would be the most suitable replacement.
>
> Someone could have suggested this already, sorry if I missed it. :)
>
> Trae
>
> On 5/30/06, Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
>> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about images.
>>
>>
>>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public
>>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.
>>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit
>>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>>
>> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more than
>> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
>> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
>> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
>> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But that
>> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>>
>> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
>> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>>
>> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
>> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their website.
>> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require attribution,
>> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the arrow-
>> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>>
>>
>>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>>
>> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>>
>> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain Dedication of
>> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
>> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be enforceable
>> outside of the US.)
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let us move
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>
>>> Here are some possibilities:
>>>
>>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>>> resizeable
>>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several good
>>> options imho.
>>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>> (not
>>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>>> content=1581 --
>>> not sure about licence
>>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>>
>>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>>
>>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>>
>>> Bèr
>>> --
>>> [ End user Drupal services and hosting | Sympal.nl ]
>>>
>>>
>>> Drupal upgrade repareert kritiek beveiligingslek:
>>> http://help.sympal.nl/
>>> drupal_upgrade_repareert_kritiek_beveiligingslek
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> themes mailing list
>>> themes at drupal.org
>>> http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes
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