[themes] Re: themes Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23
Eric Carroll
eric at visualnotion.com
Wed May 31 16:18:54 UTC 2006
I , too, like this one. It looks clean without having too many
gradients and whatnot going on.
Although, I do like the idea of having an icon set that was created
for Drupal. I am not sure how much time I could devote to it, but I
have some other contacts that may be interested in helping as well.
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Eric Carroll
drupal.org ID: vnotion
eric at visualnotion.com
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On May 31, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Øivind Binde wrote:
> I would give my vote too this icon package:
> http://www.silvestre.com.ar/wp-content/uploaded/Neu-0.6-PR3.tar.bz2
>
> morphir
>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>> (Christian Berg)
>> 2. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Laura
>> Scott)
>> 3. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Trae
>> McCombs)
>> 4. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (grohk)
>> 5. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>> (Vladimir Zlatanov)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:55:22 +0200
>> From: Christian Berg <xeniac at gmx.at>
>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
>> Message-ID: <1149022522.8924.16.camel at localhost.localdomain>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Just an idea for Drupal 4.99: Icon-Themes!
>>
>> Booth GNOME and KDE have support for themes AND icon-themes.
>> Maybe we could add an slick and KISS way for this feature.
>> theme('icon','apply');
>> If somebody want's an Tango-Iconset, we could host something like
>> this
>> on an external Drupal "Fan-Page".
>>
>> Additional: Many New Drupal-Contrib Themes are based on oswd.org
>> Designs, that have some restrictions too.
>> for example the andreas01 Theme based on the andreas01 oswd.org
>> Design:
>>
>> "If you like this layout and would like to use it in any way, you are
>> free to do so. All I ask for is that you leave the "Design by Andreas
>> Viklund" link in the footer of the site. If you would like to remove
>> that line, or if you are interested in professional services that are
>> related to webdesign or this layout (such as custom design, branding,
>> scripting or programming), please contact me through my website
>> for more
>> information!"
>>
>> Sounds Simmilar to the "CC Bronze" Restrictions to me.
>>
>> Maybe Drupal Developers should split up the Code from the
>> Presentation
>> also on their Repositories.
>> Drupal.org only hosts Drupal Core and Drupal Code that is
>> absolutly GPL.
>> Drupal-Mods.net or something simmilar hosts a collection of
>> Drupal-Themes, -Hacks, -Mods, Icon-Themes, Whatever, related to
>> Drupal
>> but with other licenses.
>>
>> Am Dienstag, den 30.05.2006, 22:22 +0200 schrieb Bèr Kessels:
>>
>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:08:21 -0600
>> From: Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com>
>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
>> Cc: infrastructure at drupal.org
>> Message-ID: <6C281D70-6F88-4F04-AEAC-056205968897 at pingv.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
>> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about
>> images.
>>
>>
>>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public
>>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.
>>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit
>>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>>
>>
>> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more than
>> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
>> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
>> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
>> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But that
>> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>>
>> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
>> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>>
>> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
>> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their website.
>> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require attribution,
>> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the arrow-
>> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>>
>>
>>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>>
>>
>> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>>
>> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain Dedication of
>> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
>> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be enforceable
>> outside of the US.)
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let us
>>> move
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>
>>> Here are some possibilities:
>>>
>>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>>> resizeable
>>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several good
>>> options imho.
>>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>> (not
>>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>>> content=1581 --
>>> not sure about licence
>>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>>
>>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>>
>>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>>
>>> Bèr
>>> --
>>> [ End user Drupal services and hosting | Sympal.nl ]
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:15:32 -0400
>> From: "Trae McCombs" <traemccombs at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>> To: "A list for theme developers" <themes at drupal.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <b4fcd9cb0605301515w2dc82192k619ccc2e93ad2e80 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git2
>>
>> Jakub pointed this out to me. It follows the Tango Guidelines,
>> yet is GPL.
>> Perhaps it would be the most suitable replacement.
>>
>> Someone could have suggested this already, sorry if I missed it. :)
>>
>> Trae
>>
>> On 5/30/06, Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
>>> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about
>>> images.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>>>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public
>>>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>>>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.
>>>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>>>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit
>>>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>>>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>>>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more than
>>> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
>>> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
>>> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
>>> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But that
>>> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>>>
>>> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
>>> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>>>
>>> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
>>> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their
>>> website.
>>> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require attribution,
>>> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the
>>> arrow-
>>> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>>>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>>>
>>> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain Dedication of
>>> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
>>> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be enforceable
>>> outside of the US.)
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let
>>>> us move
>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some possibilities:
>>>>
>>>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>>>> resizeable
>>>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>>>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several
>>>> good
>>>> options imho.
>>>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>>> (not
>>>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>>>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>>>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>>>> content=1581 --
>>>> not sure about licence
>>>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>>>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>>>
>>>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>>>
>>>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>>>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>>>
>>>> Bèr
>>>> --
>>>> [ End user Drupal services and hosting | Sympal.nl ]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Drupal upgrade repareert kritiek beveiligingslek:
>>>> http://help.sympal.nl/
>>>> drupal_upgrade_repareert_kritiek_beveiligingslek
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