[themes] Re: themes Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23
Eric Carroll
eric at visualnotion.com
Wed May 31 16:21:59 UTC 2006
Is there a list of topics or items that need icons?
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Eric Carroll
drupal.org ID: vnotion
eric at visualnotion.com
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On May 31, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Eric Carroll wrote:
> I , too, like this one. It looks clean without having too many
> gradients and whatnot going on.
>
> Although, I do like the idea of having an icon set that was created
> for Drupal. I am not sure how much time I could devote to it, but I
> have some other contacts that may be interested in helping as well.
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> Eric Carroll
> drupal.org ID: vnotion
> eric at visualnotion.com
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>
>
> On May 31, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Øivind Binde wrote:
>
>> I would give my vote too this icon package:
>> http://www.silvestre.com.ar/wp-content/uploaded/Neu-0.6-PR3.tar.bz2
>>
>> morphir
>>
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>>> 1. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>>> (Christian Berg)
>>> 2. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Laura
>>> Scott)
>>> 3. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (Trae
>>> McCombs)
>>> 4. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL. (grohk)
>>> 5. Re: Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>>> (Vladimir Zlatanov)
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:55:22 +0200
>>> From: Christian Berg <xeniac at gmx.at>
>>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>>> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
>>> Message-ID: <1149022522.8924.16.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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>>>
>>> Just an idea for Drupal 4.99: Icon-Themes!
>>>
>>> Booth GNOME and KDE have support for themes AND icon-themes.
>>> Maybe we could add an slick and KISS way for this feature.
>>> theme('icon','apply');
>>> If somebody want's an Tango-Iconset, we could host something like
>>> this
>>> on an external Drupal "Fan-Page".
>>>
>>> Additional: Many New Drupal-Contrib Themes are based on oswd.org
>>> Designs, that have some restrictions too.
>>> for example the andreas01 Theme based on the andreas01 oswd.org
>>> Design:
>>>
>>> "If you like this layout and would like to use it in any way, you
>>> are
>>> free to do so. All I ask for is that you leave the "Design by
>>> Andreas
>>> Viklund" link in the footer of the site. If you would like to remove
>>> that line, or if you are interested in professional services that
>>> are
>>> related to webdesign or this layout (such as custom design,
>>> branding,
>>> scripting or programming), please contact me through my website
>>> for more
>>> information!"
>>>
>>> Sounds Simmilar to the "CC Bronze" Restrictions to me.
>>>
>>> Maybe Drupal Developers should split up the Code from the
>>> Presentation
>>> also on their Repositories.
>>> Drupal.org only hosts Drupal Core and Drupal Code that is
>>> absolutly GPL.
>>> Drupal-Mods.net or something simmilar hosts a collection of
>>> Drupal-Themes, -Hacks, -Mods, Icon-Themes, Whatever, related to
>>> Drupal
>>> but with other licenses.
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, den 30.05.2006, 22:22 +0200 schrieb Bèr Kessels:
>>>
>>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:08:21 -0600
>>> From: Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>>> To: A list for theme developers <themes at drupal.org>
>>> Cc: infrastructure at drupal.org
>>> Message-ID: <6C281D70-6F88-4F04-AEAC-056205968897 at pingv.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes;
>>> format=flowed
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
>>> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about
>>> images.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>>>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public
>>>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>>>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.
>>>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>>>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors commit
>>>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>>>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>>>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more than
>>> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
>>> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
>>> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
>>> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But that
>>> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>>>
>>> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
>>> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>>>
>>> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
>>> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their
>>> website.
>>> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require attribution,
>>> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the
>>> arrow-
>>> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>>>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>>>
>>> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain Dedication of
>>> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
>>> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be enforceable
>>> outside of the US.)
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let
>>>> us move
>>>> forward.
>>>>
>>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some possibilities:
>>>>
>>>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>>>> resizeable
>>>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>>>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several
>>>> good
>>>> options imho.
>>>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>>> (not
>>>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>>>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>>>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>>>> content=1581 --
>>>> not sure about licence
>>>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>>>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>>>
>>>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>>>
>>>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>>>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>>>
>>>> Bèr
>>>> --
>>>> [ End user Drupal services and hosting | Sympal.nl ]
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:15:32 -0400
>>> From: "Trae McCombs" <traemccombs at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [themes] Tango iconset: Default for drupal, is NOT GPL.
>>> To: "A list for theme developers" <themes at drupal.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <b4fcd9cb0605301515w2dc82192k619ccc2e93ad2e80 at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git2
>>>
>>> Jakub pointed this out to me. It follows the Tango Guidelines,
>>> yet is GPL.
>>> Perhaps it would be the most suitable replacement.
>>>
>>> Someone could have suggested this already, sorry if I missed it. :)
>>>
>>> Trae
>>>
>>> On 5/30/06, Laura Scott <laura at pingv.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if we're not trying to apply mileage standards to
>>>> bicycles. As far as I know, the GPL is about software, not about
>>>> images.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The licenses for most software are designed to take away your
>>>>> freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General
>>>>> Public
>>>>> License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change
>>>>> free software--to make sure the software is free for all its
>>>>> users.
>>>>> This General Public License applies to most of the Free Software
>>>>> Foundation's software and to any other program whose authors
>>>>> commit
>>>>> to using it. (Some other Free Software Foundation software is
>>>>> covered by the GNU Lesser General Public License instead.) You can
>>>>> apply it to your programs, too.
>>>>>
>>>> I may be wrong, but don't believe you can GPL an image any more
>>>> than
>>>> you can copyright a lawn. We're talking about different kinds of
>>>> licensing, different kinds of works. An image isn't software. The
>>>> image format could be considered software, so we could require that
>>>> images not be in any proprietary format, such as PSD or ia. But
>>>> that
>>>> doesn't get to the creative property aspects.
>>>>
>>>> I humbly suggest focusing on the goal, and not on the means. GPL
>>>> itself is not manna. Its values are what we seek, no?
>>>>
>>>> The closest thing I can find is the Creative Commons Share Alike
>>>> license. However, I cannot seem to find it anywhere on their
>>>> website.
>>>> All of their pre-configured licenses for images require
>>>> attribution,
>>>> which defeats the stated goals here. But Share Alike (with the
>>>> arrow-
>>>> circle icon) seems to capture exactly what we're after:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Share Alike. You allow others to distribute derivative works only
>>>>> under a license identical to the license that governs your work.
>>>>>
>>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses
>>>>
>>>> The other approach would be to require a Public Domain
>>>> Dedication of
>>>> the image elements. http://creativecommons.org/license/
>>>> publicdomain-2 (I note that CC states this might not be
>>>> enforceable
>>>> outside of the US.)
>>>>
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Bèr Kessels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Summary so far:It has been decided we cannot use tango. So let
>>>>> us move
>>>>> forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should find an alternaive that does allow us to go for GPL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some possibilities:
>>>>>
>>>>> * BlueSphere: http://svgicons.sourceforge.net/ -- SVG, so
>>>>> resizeable
>>>>> without distortion. BSD licence. See also
>>>>> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4276
>>>>> * Shiira: http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/icon-e.html -- several
>>>>> good
>>>>> options imho.
>>>>> * idesk: http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>>>> (not
>>>>> sure if this has icons or is just a desktop tool)
>>>>> * FreeIcons: http://realopen.org/projects/fics/
>>>>> * Marbles? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?
>>>>> content=1581 --
>>>>> not sure about licence
>>>>> * XOOPS icons: http://www.nongnu.org/matt-xoops/
>>>>> * http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/aquafusion/
>>>>>
>>>>> And http://www.maxpower.ca/free-icons/2006/03/05/
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets pick one, or go for the best option: volunteer to design a
>>>>> Drupal-specific set! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Bèr
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ End user Drupal services and hosting | Sympal.nl ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Drupal upgrade repareert kritiek beveiligingslek:
>>>>> http://help.sympal.nl/
>>>>> drupal_upgrade_repareert_kritiek_beveiligingslek
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