[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
Victor
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Thu Feb 26 02:20:38 UTC 2009
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
> Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have spoken.
> Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.
>
> Adam Mordecai wrote:
> > I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they
> > are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get
> > recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an
> > excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every once
> > in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to grow
> > as an industry.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adam Mordecai, Partner
> > Advomatic, LLC
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:
> >
> > I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20 lbs,
> > or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that
> > doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in regards to
> > these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his
> > "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know trying
> > to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response
> > was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was warranted.
> >
> > I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally would
> > want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms out
> > of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to leave it
> > at that.
> >
> > --
> > Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
> > ZivTech, LLC
> > http://zivtech.com
> > alex at zivtech.com <mailto:alex at zivtech.com>
> > office: (267) 940-7737
> > cell: (215) 866-8956
> > skype: zivtech
> > aim: zivtech
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com
> > <mailto:sam at samcohen.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
> > entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself yet.
> >
> > My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with
> > his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying
> > others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal
> > session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.
> >
> > Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if
> > someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.
> > John should have thought twice before firing off that email .
> >
> > Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or
> > the police called?
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com
> > <mailto:mark at markery.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful
> > forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect this
> > sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather
> > than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to
> > offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this
> offline.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
> > From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com
> > <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
> > Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
> > To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
> >
> >
> > "... right down to the out right threats of physical
> violence"
> >
> > There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out
> > right threates" to
> > physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This
> > is blatant slander
> > and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person
> > goes out of their
> > way to try to ruin someone else's business by making
> > completely false
> > claims?
> >
> > John asked you several times to stop emailing him and your
> > only response was
> > "block my address." It seems like you were the one that
> > went out of your way
> > to harass him.
> >
> >
> > Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why
> > he spoke to alex
> > > in
> > > that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly
> > amusing... right down
> > > to
> >
> > > the out right threats of physical violence.
> > >
> > > On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"
> > <karen at florezgroup.com <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John
> > co-owns with me.
> > > This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.
> > John called Alex
> > > to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told
> > John in a very
> > > rude,
> > > abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services
> > and is hosting a
> > > tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John
> > could learn a
> > > tip
> > > or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with
> > John for 8 years and
> > > he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not
> > going to take
> > > someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did
> > nothing to insult
> > > or
> > > harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
> > >
> > > But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to
> > email John, but he
> > > got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John
> > called Alex to
> > > tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing
> > emails did not
> > > stop
> > > even after John threatened legal action. It was finally
> > after John said he
> > > would call the police immediately that the barrage of
> > emails finally
> > > ceased.
> > >
> > > If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to
> > discuss this in
> > > more
> > > detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > > --
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