[support] turn debug on?

sander-martijn lists at severeddreams.com
Thu Sep 27 21:49:12 UTC 2007


Hi,

I'm sorry if my post was misunderstood.  I was far from criticizing 
others for their hard and usually free work.  I am more than grateful 
for how much work is already done with drupal.  I am simply a tired, 
stressed developer who has already lost money on the job (long story) so 
can't afford to pay anyone to help and am close to launch with some bugs 
on major pieces of functionality, and if anything it was that stress 
coming through.

I have no problem doing the debugging work myself and am quite used to 
it - I wanted to make it clear the paths I've already gone down before 
posting to the list, both to save people time and to show that I'm not 
turning to the list for free advice for things I should be able to 
figure out on my own.

Also I should not have said not maintained, but rather not well 
supported.  While there was a commit on 8/23 I was referring to the many 
open issues and submitted patches that are important fixes and in many 
cases have been around for a while but have not been rolled into that 
commit.  And I'm not criticizing the developer for it, just pointing out 
that this close to release I cannot expect it to be fixed on the module 
in the time I need without paying, which I unfortunately cannot afford 
to do.

I am sorry if my post came off as offensive - it was certainly not 
intended that way.  I'm just tired.

regards,
sander

Bill Fitzgerald wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've been following this thread, and have a couple suggestions --
> 
> sander-martijn wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to debug an issue with the queries that the location module 
>> is performing.  Basically it works flawlessly when logged in but not 
>> when you're not.  
> I would have to say that the location.module works pretty well -- we 
> have deployed it on a variety of sites over the last year and have had 
> minimal issues.
>> I erred earlier thinking it was working fine, but I 
>> guess it's not.  The module doesn't seem to be actively maintained so 
>> I'm stuck debugging it myself.  
> Debugging code is pretty standard. The time spent debugging/customizing 
> is still less than the time required to build it from scratch. Your 
> initial statement reads as if you are criticizing a developer who has 
> put a lot of time into writing code that you now want to leverage. The 
> last commit to this module was August 23rd, just over a month ago, which 
> is pretty recent. I don't know if your intent was to level criticism, 
> but it came across that way to me. If you want more focused attention, 
> you might want to try a short term support deal with the dev -- you pay 
> him to help solve your problems. It would save you time and frustration, 
> and would get more focused attention on the module from a person who 
> knows it well.
>> If anyone has any ideas as to why that 
>> may happen or what to look for I would greatly appreciate it (i've 
>> already patched the module with a patch someone offered on the support 
>> page as well as edited some sql to eliminate an ambiguity issue - I got 
>> rid of the errors but not get "Displaying results 1 - 0 of 11 for search 
>> on 05401" for a search that has 11 results if you're logged in).
>>   
> There are now a few different variables to troubleshoot -- the integrity 
> of the module, the integrity of the patch, and the integrity of new code.
>> That said I have a more general question that has nothing to do with the 
>> module.  I want to find out what the queries are that are getting 
>> executed on the database so that I can
>> a. compare them to the code (i discovered while debugging the first 
>> issue that the queries executed are not always the same as t
>> b. run them directly on the db and see what I get
>>   
> Have you looked at the MySQL query log? 
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/query-log.html
> 
> Good luck in solving your issues, and I hope that these suggestions are 
> helpful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bill
> 


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