[support] Basic Questions About Organic Groups

Shai Gluskin shai at content2zero.com
Tue Oct 28 14:59:26 UTC 2008


Moses,

Lots of questions, I don't have much time now, but I thought a partial
answer would at least make you feel like someone is listening.

FYI, OG is not what I would call a "beginners" module in Drupal. It's really
complex, it's trying to do a lot and be very flexible which can make things
confusing at times. If you could, I'd build a bunch of Drupal web sites
without OG first before diving into OG. I appologize if you do already have
a bunch of Drupal experience.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Moses Elias <iom at netvision.net.il> wrote:

>  I am new to Organic Groups, and I have a couple of basic questions. If
> anyone could help out it would be much appreciated.
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> 1)
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> When I watched Zacker's famous OG tutorial video-cast, I noticed that when
> a new OG group is created, you can assign a mailing group name in the
> typical yahoogroup format, for example, xxx, which is then represented as
> xxx at mysite.com when the mail is sent out to group members. Just like in
> the
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> form: support at drupal.org has, which this mailing list itself belongs to.
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> Surely the drupal site is using a 6.x version flavor of Drupal, and this
> can be achieved in 6.x - but currently I don't see how it's done. Zacker did
> this when he created a new group? How can I achieve the same thing? I don't
> see a field where the unique group-name can be provided as input.
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> I was told to try and use the og2list module. However, I notice that
> og2list isn't available for any 6.x version. Is this feature possible using
> a related module or maybe I've overlooked some feature?
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>
This list is, maybe ironically, is not Drupal connected in anyway. It uses
Mailman software.

This tutorial might get you moving in the right direction:
"Add Content to Your Site Via Email": http://drupal.org/node/200647

This wouldn't be a classic listserve. But it is possible to make a forum
list serve like by using that tutorial, possibly in combination with a
module like: http://drupal.org/watcher and/or
http://drupal.org/comment_notify

That og2list module looks dead. Try to find some people who used it and what
they changed to.

> 2)
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> When you create a new organic group, any messages sent from the organic
> group defaults to a mailing list style message. If I want the very same mail
> to appear both as a mail message sent to a group member and is also an
> identical forum message as well, how do I achieve that? I was told to try
> and use triggers/actions but I don't see exactly how this can be done.
>
Moses, there are a lot of skills/experiences etc. you need to build a
complex Drupal web site. Your requirements, from what I can tell, are
complex. Should you decide on the triggers/actions approach to this problem
-- there is often more than one way to solve a problem in Drupal --- start
off by learning the skill to do something basic with it. A quick search
turned up this tutorial... it's for Drupal 5 and uses the Workflow_ng
module. There might be comments there or other links on how to do it in D6:
http://drupal.org/node/175414

3)
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> What is the relationship between OG forums and OG groups. Can anyone please
> explain the relationship/difference between the two?
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> Can someone also explain the difference between OG forums and regular
> forums?
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> 4)
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> How do I have a one to one relationship between an OG group that's created
> and an OG forum? I understand OG sends out a mail messages to all members
> subscribed to an OG group. But I want the same mail message that's sent out
> to the OG group  members to also identically appear as a forum message.
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> One to one relationship between OG group email message and OG forum
> message.
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> Is that possible?
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> 5)
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> How do I associate only one OG group with only one OG forum? For each OG
> group that I create I want to have one and only one forum created.
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> Authenticated users will be creating groups/forums on the fly so I want to
> limit their scope for errors. How do I link between the two of them?
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> 6)
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> Is it possible to moderate an OG group? In other words, any email message
> that is sent out under the group's name, is it possible to moderate the
> message if the group owner/administrator decides that this group member
> should be moderated?
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Using the techniques described in the Tutorial above "publishing content via
email" you create a content-type for this purpose, or use one that already
exists, but make sure to set the default publishing mode to "unpublished."
That is the start, at least, to an approach toward moderation. Again, there
are lots of solutions to this, but that is the basic starting place.

As you move along and begin to break down the pieces... I've found that,
either on the Drupal forums or list serves, and even IRC for that matter --
you are more likely to get helpful responses when the question is bite
sized. That is indeed an overgeneralization, but it has generally been my
experience.

Hang in there,

Shai

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> Thanks,Moses
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