Since this is a tech list, I'll ask a tech question: has any work been done to give themes (read: PHPTemplate themes) full settings abilities? By this I mean the ability to configure and store more data than just booleans for search boxes and mission statements. I think allowing a site user to click some forms and choose his/her layout and colors would go a long way to ending this debate. For a demo, check out my unreleased "Nautilus" theme: http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/sandbox/mfredrickson/them... It's actually a theme and a module that allows admins to choose 1-4 column layouts, with some sane defaults. The code ended up being totally byzantine, so I'm not going to release it, but it gives you an idea of what I'd like to see in core. We're coders. Let's do some coding. -M