Hi, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
Hi,
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Also, please consider breaking the tradition. There is no realistic chance views 2 being ready for Drupal 6 this year and that seems a crucial problem. There are some other "little" pieces and bits.
Actually I think this is a sign of another underlying problem that the exponential growth of the community has caused. In previous release cycles at this time most of the major projects have been ported, so they are at least working if not ready for the next stable release of Drupal. One of the biggest changes at least what I think is that now is that most of the developers are now doing this full time and setting the balance between paid work and fun development of contributed modules sometimes becomes very hard. I know myself with e-Commerce realistically I don't see use getting out a completely new stable version until early Feb which is 2 months away. And I will still need to convert it to Drupal 6. ATM I feel that majority of the heavy lifting when it comes to coding is still being done by a small group of people. I know the bar is being lowered when it comes to developing for Drupal (developing != coding) as it is a lot more point and click to get Drupal to do things. I think we need to find ways to get the coders working on the major contributed modules like views and cck (if we do not have these modules at the release of Drupal 6 it will be very bad) working on getting the Drupal 6 releases done. Maybe the Drupal Association needs to not only deal with the infrastructure but maybe also look at bringing on some full time coders whos job it is to not only code for Core, but also run around the edges and bring some of the more important contributed modules up to the next release. I think with the release of Drupal 6 we really not in a time crunch as Drupal 5 still has some teeth and we are still doing quite amazing things with it. It is not like when we were doing the 4.7 release and everyone was clambering to get sites onto it. If I am still releasing sites on Drupal 5.x I don't think that it is stopping me from still putting out great sites. We do need to make sure the major contributed modules are all go at the time of the Drupal 6 release. I know myself that I couldn't deploy sites without views and cck (I could but I don't want to go back to the dark old days before views and cck) and there are most likely other modules that people would consider show stoppers. I think that Drupal 6 is a different release than any of the previous releases of Drupal. We have modules outside of core which we need before we can more forward. Gordon.