Yea i know those are two very different things - however they have one thing in common - when not made right they can break any website.... I've got some unique needs and it'd like to start some development on those two modules simply defined as follows (both would of course remain fully free and publicly available. if you're interested in helping or know of other development in progress please let me know - i plan on starting the adserver first and then working on the NNTP (currently planned with or w/o the bar.baen site picking this) NNTP/Mailgateway (unpaid project for bar.baen.com - talking about replacing the system they have with drupal) -- allowing for threaded posting of comments and the ability to subscribe to taxonomies and maybe forums also -- this must also have the ability to control access to the nodes just as roles and na_arbitrators do (use their data if mods available) -- more spec needed... Adserver (small but paying project) -- simply put we need to be able to show any ad on a page spot of any size w/o limitations -- basic impressions / clicks data would be nice but not at all req -- would like the logic for displaying the ads built into the page view itself - allowing the end user to place blocks anywhere and within those blocks set simple random rotations of any number of ads. -- the hard part is doing this without repeating any ad show on a particular page (ie.. if there are 5 available ads for an area - an there are 8 spots open in the block setups it will only show the total of five balanced across the available space. it is key that the dimensions are not a factor - call it non-idiot proof but it's a needed option for the targets. - dimensionally controled spots also would be good... ) -- the ability to assign types to the blocks -- Dan Horning - danhorning.com American Digital Services - americandigitalservices.com Where you are only limited by imagination. 1-866-493-4218 (direct) / 1-800-863-3854 (main number)