Yea i know those are two very different things - however they have one thing in common - when not made right they can break any website.... I've got some unique needs and it'd like to start some development on those two modules simply defined as follows (both would of course remain fully free and publicly available. if you're interested in helping or know of other development in progress please let me know - i plan on starting the adserver first and then working on the NNTP (currently planned with or w/o the bar.baen site picking this) NNTP/Mailgateway (unpaid project for bar.baen.com - talking about replacing the system they have with drupal) -- allowing for threaded posting of comments and the ability to subscribe to taxonomies and maybe forums also -- this must also have the ability to control access to the nodes just as roles and na_arbitrators do (use their data if mods available) -- more spec needed... Adserver (small but paying project) -- simply put we need to be able to show any ad on a page spot of any size w/o limitations -- basic impressions / clicks data would be nice but not at all req -- would like the logic for displaying the ads built into the page view itself - allowing the end user to place blocks anywhere and within those blocks set simple random rotations of any number of ads. -- the hard part is doing this without repeating any ad show on a particular page (ie.. if there are 5 available ads for an area - an there are 8 spots open in the block setups it will only show the total of five balanced across the available space. it is key that the dimensions are not a factor - call it non-idiot proof but it's a needed option for the targets. - dimensionally controled spots also would be good... ) -- the ability to assign types to the blocks -- Dan Horning - danhorning.com American Digital Services - americandigitalservices.com Where you are only limited by imagination. 1-866-493-4218 (direct) / 1-800-863-3854 (main number)
NNTP/Mailgateway (unpaid project for bar.baen.com - talking about replacing the system they have with drupal) -- allowing for threaded posting of comments and the ability to subscribe to taxonomies and maybe forums also -- this must also have the ability to control access to the nodes just as roles and na_arbitrators do (use their data if mods available) -- more spec needed...
I am sure someone will find this useful. Think of a Drupal powered clone of Google Groups (ne Dejavu).
Adserver (small but paying project) -- simply put we need to be able to show any ad on a page spot of any size w/o limitations -- basic impressions / clicks data would be nice but not at all req -- would like the logic for displaying the ads built into the page view itself - allowing the end user to place blocks anywhere and within those blocks set simple random rotations of any number of ads. -- the hard part is doing this without repeating any ad show on a particular page (ie.. if there are 5 available ads for an area - an there are 8 spots open in the block setups it will only show the total of five balanced across the available space. it is key that the dimensions are not a factor - call it non-idiot proof but it's a needed option for the targets. - dimensionally controled spots also would be good... ) -- the ability to assign types to the blocks
There is the banner module which serves ads from the Drupal site on the same Drupal site. At one point Jeremy Andrews was writing an expanded version that treats ads as nodes. If you want a central ad server for other sites, why do you need it to be Drupal? Look in phpAdsNew which is GPL licensed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpAdsNew
the nntp thing - that's great. as far as the adserver - the limitations of phpmyads (new and others) all are dimension based for the target adspace and phpmyads is just a drain on a server (esp the environment I'm looking at and the fact it's only an internal ad system) i think it's really just the logic for the blocks that is complicated in any way - ;-) any thoughts? -dan Khalid B wrote:
NNTP/Mailgateway (unpaid project for bar.baen.com - talking about replacing the system they have with drupal) -- allowing for threaded posting of comments and the ability to subscribe to taxonomies and maybe forums also -- this must also have the ability to control access to the nodes just as roles and na_arbitrators do (use their data if mods available) -- more spec needed...
I am sure someone will find this useful. Think of a Drupal powered clone of Google Groups (ne Dejavu).
Adserver (small but paying project) -- simply put we need to be able to show any ad on a page spot of any size w/o limitations -- basic impressions / clicks data would be nice but not at all req -- would like the logic for displaying the ads built into the page view itself - allowing the end user to place blocks anywhere and within those blocks set simple random rotations of any number of ads. -- the hard part is doing this without repeating any ad show on a particular page (ie.. if there are 5 available ads for an area - an there are 8 spots open in the block setups it will only show the total of five balanced across the available space. it is key that the dimensions are not a factor - call it non-idiot proof but it's a needed option for the targets. - dimensionally controled spots also would be good... ) -- the ability to assign types to the blocks
There is the banner module which serves ads from the Drupal site on the same Drupal site.
At one point Jeremy Andrews was writing an expanded version that treats ads as nodes.
If you want a central ad server for other sites, why do you need it to be Drupal? Look in phpAdsNew which is GPL licensed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpAdsNew
-- Dan Horning - danhorning.com American Digital Services - americandigitalservices.com Where you are only limited by imagination. 1-866-493-4218 (direct) / 1-800-863-3854 (main number)
as far as the adserver - the limitations of phpmyads (new and others) all are dimension based for the target adspace and phpmyads is just a drain on a server (esp the environment I'm looking at and the fact it's only an internal ad system)
phpAdsNew is designed so it is a central server, i.e. runs on dedicated hardware that only serves ad. The banner module and others are part of the Drupal server.
i think it's really just the logic for the blocks that is complicated in any way - ;-)
How so? If all you want is to rotate ads in blocks, then the banner module already does that. Also, see the code in the adsense module, you can define the format and channel per block with some pre-defined blocks. In 4.7, blocks can be anywhere. You could do the same with banner module or a variant of it. As far as not repeating the ad, it can be done by a simple static variable that stores the ad ID that is displayed, so it does not get displayed again.
Khalid B wrote:
NNTP/Mailgateway (unpaid project for bar.baen.com - talking about replacing the system they have with drupal) -- allowing for threaded posting of comments and the ability to subscribe to taxonomies and maybe forums also -- this must also have the ability to control access to the nodes just as roles and na_arbitrators do (use their data if mods available) -- more spec needed...
I am sure someone will find this useful. Think of a Drupal powered clone of Google Groups (ne Dejavu).
Adserver (small but paying project) -- simply put we need to be able to show any ad on a page spot of any size w/o limitations -- basic impressions / clicks data would be nice but not at all req -- would like the logic for displaying the ads built into the page view itself - allowing the end user to place blocks anywhere and within those blocks set simple random rotations of any number of ads. -- the hard part is doing this without repeating any ad show on a particular page (ie.. if there are 5 available ads for an area - an there are 8 spots open in the block setups it will only show the total of five balanced across the available space. it is key that the dimensions are not a factor - call it non-idiot proof but it's a needed option for the targets. - dimensionally controled spots also would be good... ) -- the ability to assign types to the blocks
There is the banner module which serves ads from the Drupal site on the same Drupal site.
At one point Jeremy Andrews was writing an expanded version that treats ads as nodes.
If you want a central ad server for other sites, why do you need it to be Drupal? Look in phpAdsNew which is GPL licensed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhpAdsNew
-- Dan Horning - danhorning.com American Digital Services - americandigitalservices.com Where you are only limited by imagination. 1-866-493-4218 (direct) / 1-800-863-3854 (main number)
2006/8/30, Khalid B <kb@2bits.com>:
NNTP/Mailgateway <zap - specs>
I am sure someone will find this useful. Think of a Drupal powered clone of Google Groups (ne Dejavu).
If Drupal had had this back when SSLUG[1] was looking at CMS' for their 'new' site (still in development), it might have had a much better stance since it seems we've/they've had to write a module from scratch for what they ended up using (Zope/Plone, IIRC). [1] Skåne Sjælland Linux User Group http://sslug.dk/ -- Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen <http://freso.dk/>
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 15:15, Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen wrote:
2006/8/30, Khalid B <kb@2bits.com>:
NNTP/Mailgateway
<zap - specs>
I am sure someone will find this useful. Think of a Drupal powered clone of Google Groups (ne Dejavu).
There is already an OG to mailing list converter module available. I'd suggest going a similar route, og2news or something. I have no knowledge of NNTP or how to go about writing such a module, but building it off of OG seems the logical way to go to me. :-) -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
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