Thanks Kevin for your diligence in trying to solve this one.... Suggesting an alternate outcome: I'd humbly suggest that the responsible thing to have done is to fork TincyMCE before the rewrite into either another module until it became a better replacement (e.g. TinyMCE2). I realize that this could be new ground, but is it possible for the outcome to be that we create a new project such as TinyMCE2 which becomes the drupal-id code and leave his maintainer status intact on that one? HEAD from TINYMCE 4.7.1 remains unchanged, and we use the 5.0 patch for TinyMCE with all its old features (is that what moxie is?) as a module that becomes the basis for continuation of TincyMCE 5.0 compliant. Much less confusion for drupal user community if that course gets followed..... IMHO. -----Original Message----- From: development-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Reynen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:31 PM To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] should tinymce get a new maintainer tinymce Here's an update on the TinyMCE saga... Posting to the www.drupal-id.com forum is getting a response, but those responses only come on the forum or through the Drupal.org contact forms. Attempts to send email directly to support@drupal-id.com are delayed. My guess is these emails are ultimately rejected. Even when I am able to communicate with someone at www.drupal-id.com, they do not answer the questions I ask nor have they begun to deal with the backlog of issues. All of the responses have been from someone named Wendy. The drupal-id.com on Drupal.org lists a first name of Jonathan. I've asked, but have not gotten an explanation about that. The only thing useful Wendy has done is grant me co-maintainer status. I went a head and posted this message to the TinyMCE project page today... "IMPORTANT: There are unresolved issues with the current release of this module in IE and Safari. In addition, two features found in the 4.7 version of the module are missing from the 5 release. There is a patch to restore basic role based customization, individual buttons can no longer be selected with a graphical interface. To add, subtract, and change the order of buttons in the current release, users must edit the .js files found in the module's themes directory. Users interested in using TinyMCE the way it worked in Drupal 4.7 should look at the new Moxie module. I am not the official maintainer of this module, but communicating with drupal-id.com has proved problematic. Hopefully these issues will be resolved soon. - Kevin Reynen" I see few potential outcomes from this course of action... 1) drupal-id.com gets pissed and removes me from the project, but doesn't address any of the other issues leaving things where they were yesterday 2) drupal-id.com finally realizes there is a problem with their email system, starts to respond and address user issues/concerns 3) drupal-id.com continues to do nothing, is removed as the maintainer, and everyone interested has a rational discussion about how best to move forward Meanwhile, I am trying to clear as many issues from the TinyMCE queue as possible. Suggestions about leaving the 4.7 feature requests open or pointing those users to the Moxie "unfork" and closing the issue?