(First rant) While everyone is discussing whether a "3-column CSS layout template for developers" is achievable - I think this development process arse-up. Discussing implementation issues in absence of something to implement is wasting time. Our trialling users, Fantastico users, non-techie administrators, they want a new "sexy" theme as one of the defaults. For that reason, the focus has to be on the design first, and therefore we the tools are Photoshop, Fireworks or GIMP - *not* CSS and HTML. I'm sure we'd have 10 great candidates designs within a week if an announcement went in the forums. Or let's just expand on a great looking Wordpress theme. Or let's just have a vote on the best looking contrib theme. After we have the design, we can knock ourselves out with the implementation. Until then the clock's ticking, and rehashing ALA articles is not going to get us anywhere. Cheers, Simon