Okay, I'm a little late to this debate, but I just updated my demo site with all of the latest drupal updates (BTW the many changes from the last few days alone are going to make 4.6 an awesome release - hats off to everyone - but that is a different topic - ). 1) Why in the world is there still a 'settings' menu item with sub-items for modules? A great number of module's settings are directly under administer - what makes them so special? - or rather what makes those modules listed under administer->settings less worthy of a top level position? Why not rename 'settings' to 'Drupal settings' and move everything currently under 'settings' to be directly under administer? 2) Regarding 'user' settings. Taking access control out of the local task (tabs) of users is a good idea. Likewise taking profile settings out of the local task is a good thing. But all three things are still related to users - and now they are in three different places (logically and visually). Call me crazy - but why not have: Administer -> Users -> User access control -> User profile settings If the answer is "That is too many clicks" - Then just rename the titles so they show up one after the other in the Administer menu. Yes talk is cheap - so I'll stop typing and start looking at the code to at very least get the user settings closer to each other. andre