I don't think we can delegate any part of Drupal to something we don't control; I think that's just a non-starter. So for me, the issue is what we can learn from StackOverflow and friends - they do great stuff and end up with great content. And yes, I think we should build something on that. Who is signing up to build it? I think it's an easy sell. -Randy On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Dan Horning <dan.horning@planetnoc.com>wrote:
i have to ask ... what would we actually gain by doing this - cleanup the various methods for finding info about a given module or theme or bug a little and we far surpass this suggested tool
it seems that stackoverflow is driven very highly on userpoints to control access - which while a good thing - doesn't really fit the development model we have here. there are existing processes that would have to change to fit the suggested model. I for one am more for peer reviews and leadership staff assigning access than a points system that someone could rack up points and just get access ... what's that really do for the community - seems that would be great if we were just a tech help forum - awarding points for the users that help and giving them more access - but what's that do for drupal and it's community? (i know there is a potential for this to help ...)
another area of issue to me is - another login ? or would it use SSO? do the drupal leadership users and dries have admin level control...?
mostly here i just don't get what adding yet another resource (like has been said before) would do to help the lead devs, module + theme devs and just supporting drupal. if i had say -=- i'd vote against this idea
-- Dan Horning
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From: "Victor Kane" <victorkane@gmail.com> To: development@drupal.org Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:01:55 PM Subject: Re: [development] Drupal Answers: A Stackoverflow/StackExchange site proposal I guess this is a good place to start: http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Victor Kane < victorkane@gmail.com > wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Josh Koenig < josh@getpantheon.com > wrote:
Stew,
Thanks for starting this thread. This is important stuff:
http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/2978/drupal-answers
I want to put my support behind this proposal and explain my thinking in doing so.
The Drupal community is already growing faster than Drupal's infrastructure can easily support. With the release of D7 and all the other associated projects getting off the ground, drupal.org is increasingly often a bottleneck or blocker. We have wonderful hosts from OSUOSL, but the human resources needed to develop, maintain and manage our own infrastructure (which is a 24x7x365 job) are limited.
We have to pick our battles. I much would rather see energy, effort, attention and money poured into continuing to improve our git and module infrastructure — which is much more deeply intrinsic to the health and future of the project — and accept that even though we *can* build our own StackOverflow (@eaton proved this already) that doesn't necessarily mean it's the best use of limited resources, or the best thing for the project.
Drupal can theoretically/technically solve a lot of its own problems, but I think we often suffer from a "not built here" prejudice as a result. In the realm of getting good quality answers to Drupal questions out to the most people possible, I can't see how a StackExchange site would do anything but help. I would love to see the community embrace something really cool and useful from the wider Internet as a way to promote the project.
You make a convincing argument Josh; my own gut feeling has been, reading this thread, "how can we delegate something so important to the Drupal Community as its own documentation to another party who may or may not exist in the near/medium/long term".
Can someone inform somewhat on who these guys are? And why there and not someplace else?
Victor
Finally, I should say that I *do not* think a StackExchange answers site replaces anything. It's not an issue queue, and it's not a replacement for the dialogue that exist in the forums. I would say it's a new resource, something that can help the 10s of 1000s of people who will be trying to wrap their mind around Drupal in the coming year.
Cheers -josh
-- Randy Fay Drupal Module and Site Development randy@randyfay.com +1 970.462.7450