There is an essential part that I have missed all trough this discussion * What does Drupal want to acheive with a default theme?
Ber brings up a good point. I think from what I've been observing is that there is more interest in having a really good looking default theme with all the bells and whistles. Themetastic meets and surpasses that need, especially with this new color widget. It serves the branding aesthetic well. However, from a theme designer point of view, this theme will be nothing but hell for a new designer. Support channels will be flooded with questions about it. So I STRONGLY am for a non-default core theme that: 1) has basic elements shaded or outlined 2) is very well documented 3) is compatible across browsers 4) causes the least headaches for new designers zirafa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com