Given the pace and quality of E_NOTICE patches of late, I will now fix them all. Just telling the world so noone else wastes time trying again and again.
Just telling the world so noone else wastes time trying again and again.
Oh thank you our entirely humble hero! -- Morbus Iff ( get on the floor. baby, lose control. ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ aim: akaMorbus / skype: morbusiff / icq: 2927491 / jabber.org: morbus
Just telling the world so noone else wastes time trying again and again. Oh thank you our entirely humble hero!
You can be sarcastic but aside from complaints that "HEAD is too broken" and those few who took the effort of submitting something, now those were very broken patches. I have not seen the fury of activity I expected at the very moment the E_ALL patch landed. I expected that people will look at one page and say 'oh this is broken'... let me see whether i can fix it... So shut the fuck up and thank me.
----- Start Original Message ----- Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:18:32 +1100 From: Richard Archer <drupal.org@juggernaut.com.au> To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] All your notices belong to me
At 2:37 AM +0100 29/1/07, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
So shut the fuck up and thank me.
Oh, what a lovely person you are.
That's a game and that can be played by more than one. I hereby stop working on notices. Sleep for example is a better option at 3:27am, don't you think so?
On 28-Jan-07, at 9:18 PM, Richard Archer wrote:
At 2:37 AM +0100 29/1/07, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
So shut the fuck up and thank me.
Oh, what a lovely person you are.
...R.
Ok. Could we please stop this before we all say stuff we are going to regret? Karoly is frustrated because although there was a lot of "+1" and theoretical support for E_ALL compliance in core, when it came down to rolling patches and fixing it vs. complaining about how broken HEAD is, there has been a very poor ratio of people who actually made an attempt to fix the problems. Worse, those attempts (including my own) often times weren't correct fixes for the problems, and made matters worse. Karoly dumped SEVERAL hours of time into fixing all of these tonight. So while he could probably have phrased his post a bit better, I can understand him reacting harshly to sarcasm by someone who didn't help contribute fixes. :P Now can we all please dump that energy into something constructive like reviewing http://drupal.org/node/112715 ? :) -Angie
All that was achieved here is the ruination of a very happy and really productive weekend. I will think hard about what this list brings to me and what not. This is the second time in a very short period of time when despite good intentions I was seriously hurt over this list.
I was going to sleep myself, but could not let this go by ... Because of: [x] Too much personal attacks and cheapshots [x] Focus too much on individuals and not what we collectively as a community can achieve The community and Drupal has took a step back ... As a result, [x] The community as a whole suffers [x] The reputation of the community as arrogant and hard to deal with, in enforced [x] We discourage newcomers from becoming active participants So, [x] If you are joking, make it a bit more explicit so others would get it Otherwise [x] Shut the BLEEP up if you don't have something constructive to say. [x] Think of more constructive ways to participate Or, [x] Be a bit more thick skinned, and let this pass, and continue participating End of transmission ...
On 29 Jan 2007, at 01:25, Morbus Iff wrote:
Just telling the world so noone else wastes time trying again and again.
Oh thank you our entirely humble hero!
The currency of Open Source development is trust and respect. Replies like this cost you -- even if later it turns out to be miscommunication. It's not doing you any good, Morbus. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Dries Buytaert wrote:
On 29 Jan 2007, at 01:25, Morbus Iff wrote:
Just telling the world so noone else wastes time trying again and again.
Oh thank you our entirely humble hero!
The currency of Open Source development is trust and respect. Replies like this cost you -- even if later it turns out to be miscommunication. It's not doing you any good, Morbus.
Nor does the use of inappropriate words and expressions. Sarcasm and insult are not on the same scale. In our (very young but rapidly growing) Israeli Drupal community (http://drupal.org.il), I always ask the members to learn from the high quality of discussions in D.O. forums and mailing lists, and to maintain this quality, by being mature and respectful. This usually works, and I'm glad we could import the discussion quality to our local site. I'd like to see the same quality continue here. One must remember that his/her contribution and effort are the result of their own free will, and that they cannot expect anything of anyone. This, of course, goes for everybody else, who should respect the contribution efforts of others by, at least, not being sarcastic, or anything of the likes. People! Life is too short to waste it on silly fights. Let's all enjoy the creation and wonderful work which is being done here! (Maybe we should block messages to list after midnight :-) )
On 29 Jan 2007, at 17:49, Zohar Stolar wrote:
Oh thank you our entirely humble hero!
The currency of Open Source development is trust and respect. Replies like this cost you -- even if later it turns out to be miscommunication. It's not doing you any good, Morbus.
Nor does the use of inappropriate words and expressions. Sarcasm and insult are not on the same scale.
Yes, it doesn't do Karoly any good either. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
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